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Old 09-16-2019, 08:24 AM
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Expecting double digit hourly increases; not gonna happen. Equals a NO vote.
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Old 09-16-2019, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by flightlessbirds View Post
Short of:

a.) Return to the pre-2008 contract (before the massive restructure concessions) adjusted for inflation.

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b.) current book with some minor qol fixes *and* Endeavor rates.

...I’ll be a no vote.
pssst...a.) 2003
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Old 09-16-2019, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by diverdriver2 View Post
pssst...a.) 2003
Yes my bad ... sad that 5 years difference seems like a rounding error ... such is the state of AWAC contract negotiations!
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Old 09-18-2019, 12:53 PM
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Any new TA insights?
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Old 09-18-2019, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Aerostar1 View Post
Any new TA insights?
I wouldn’t expect any info / news until the middle of October.
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Old 09-18-2019, 05:06 PM
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One rumor from the crew room is it will have PBS.
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Old 09-18-2019, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mcat View Post
One rumor from the crew room is it will have PBS.
If true that *should* increase the margin of failure significantly over TA2.
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Old 09-18-2019, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by flightlessbirds View Post
If true that *should* increase the margin of failure significantly over TA2.
I think the more junior portion of the pilot group wouldn’t really have a problem with PBS and they’re making up a larger and larger percentage of the company. Rather have a decent schedule every month instead of keeping trip touching for the one primary vacation they get.
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Old 09-18-2019, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon View Post
I think the more junior portion of the pilot group wouldn’t really have a problem with PBS and they’re making up a larger and larger percentage of the company. Rather have a decent schedule every month instead of keeping trip touching for the one primary vacation they get.
As a new guy coming on board (start class on the 29th) these are the kinds of things that are beyond my understanding but I'd like to understand them not only from my perspective but for the rest of the pilot groups perspective as well.

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Old 09-18-2019, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman21 View Post
As a new guy coming on board (start class on the 29th) these are the kinds of things that are beyond my understanding but I'd like to understand them not only from my perspective but for the rest of the pilot groups perspective as well.

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Basically the top of the list is very senior and like our current bid system cause they get 2-3 primary vacations a year which bid properly can get them 3 week off each vacation. This isn’t including secondary vacations. So under the current system they can get a lot of time off and hardly work.
These are also the same people that refuse to pay more for health insurance while getting a higher hourly rate. I would rather get a $10 an hour raise and have an option to pay $750 more a month for insurance. Doing this would give those that want the insurance the same take home pay they have now but would give those that don’t want the insurance benefit for not taking it. Not everyone is old and needs the insurance the company provides. Some people just want more money. But who knows what’s in the TA, maybe it will be a shocker and industry leading. 😂
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