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idlethrust 04-06-2020 02:44 PM
Originally Posted by RabidW0mbat (Post 3025489)
Bingo. I’ve been saying this for months. WiFi and BYOD entertainment will immediately placate a good chunk of the CRJ’s naysayers.
WiFi or not , people will still cringe at the 145 or 200. Just face the facts, they are old,outdated products that served well during their prime , but its time for them to go away and restructure all of this “ regional flying “” like Ord-Hpn back in house . In the end it will create more mainline jobs for us all shortly down the road.

Escargot 04-06-2020 02:46 PM
Kirby knows that after six months of panic eating non-stop and using up the world's supply of toilet paper, no proper 800 lb American will fit in that tube of sardines anymore.

GA2Jets 04-06-2020 03:04 PM
Originally Posted by Escargot (Post 3025533)
Kirby knows that after six months of panic eating non-stop and using up the world's supply of toilet paper, no proper 800 lb American will fit in that tube of sardines anymore.
They didn't go from "50 seats are so cool we are going to do an expensive cabin refresh" to "oh we need to get rid of these because of customer experience" in month. It's all about money, capacity and demand.

dremaldent 04-06-2020 03:11 PM
Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 3025524)
Exactly, then all they need to fix is the tiny, cramped cabin with no ability to bring carry on luggage, plus the issue of having to walk outside on a noisy ramp to get to the plane. I really don’t know why Kirby said what he did.
Having to walk on the ramp won't go away. Dulles doesn't have the capacity to handle that many RJs at jet bridges. Maybe if they built a new terminal, but that will take awhile. Plus we fly into a lot of airport that don't have them to begin with and would easily bankrupt them if they were to build them.

Itsajob 04-06-2020 03:30 PM
Originally Posted by dremaldent (Post 3025552)
Having to walk on the ramp won't go away. Dulles doesn't have the capacity to handle that many RJs at jet bridges. Maybe if they built a new terminal, but that will take awhile. Plus we fly into a lot of airport that don't have them to begin with and would easily bankrupt them if they were to build them.
I think some that what Kirby was trying to say is that there isn’t going to be as many rj’s. I think they anticipate fewer flights on bigger planes to be the new normal coming out of this.

amcnd 04-06-2020 07:13 PM
Originally Posted by RAHkid94 (Post 3025332)
Regarding point 4- United was going to dump a bunch of money into upgrades (including wifi) for the 145’s so they must like them more than the CRJ’s.

If there’s a reduction, why would they give the remaining flying to us instead of Commutair or XJT, since they’re heavily invested in those two?
OO was working on a satellite based wifi for the 200’s. So it wasn’t just for the E145’s.. But its all a moot point now...

piloto2 04-06-2020 08:10 PM
Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 3025524)
Exactly, then all they need to fix is the tiny, cramped cabin with no ability to bring carry on luggage, plus the issue of having to walk outside on a noisy ramp to get to the plane. I really don’t know why Kirby said what he did.
The “walking outside on a noisy ramp” isn’t the airplane’s fault, it’s that way because United went the cheapo route on the south side of the B terminal. You make that same walk whether you’re on a 145, 175, or CRJ if that’s where your gate it. And if you’re anywhere else, you use a jetbridge like every other airplane!

trip 04-06-2020 09:33 PM
Point 5, UND is in the business of selling pilot certificates and diplomas, of course they’re predicting full recovery by fall.

IDriveJets 04-06-2020 10:01 PM
Lol @ United forking out money on WiFi on our lovely old planes and those griping about walking on the ramp.

#priorities

vortacmeatsac 04-07-2020 03:53 AM
Originally Posted by piloto2 (Post 3025324)
What makes you think that? The only plane the flying public hates more than the ERJ 145 is a CRJ 200. The 200 is getting harder and harder to support. The 145XRs flying for UAL were going to get upgrades. Nothing similar has been mentioned for the 200, has it? But the real issue may be the small size of AWAC's pilot group. Very much in the same category as Trans States, but without any aircraft that UAL has expressed any interest in upgrading.
What do you think people would hate more? A 50 seat RJ, or no service?


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