Does it make any difference at this point?

138 of us are still screwed and essentially on the street with the consolation of a phone call.

That phone call could be in three months or three years. I’m not sure people will wait three years let alone three months when they have families to feed or bills to pay.

Ultimately this is a job like any other and the whole “we have a family environment and we look after our staff” was a nice sales pitch.

Money talks, bs walks...

 

The whole “we look out for our staff” thing has always been a line of bs. I had my wedding date picked before I was hired at Willy. On day one of Indoc I filled out a PTO request for my wedding that was happening 7 months later. I was told it would be no problem and I’d get the days off. A week before my wedding the request was still pending so I talked to the chief pilot and was basically told I should have bid for those days off. I informed him that I did but I was too junior to get those days off. I then told him what days I wouldn’t be at work and he could consider them sick days or unavailable or whatever but I wasn’t going to reschedule my wedding the week before.

 

..........and then what happened.

 

If it makes you feel better some of your fellow pilots are gonna make some decent money off you picking up all the open time created by the furloughs. Maybe they will share with you. NOT! I get publicly the union has to say that “not picking up open time is bad” but the reason it’s bad is because it’s a work action. The courts will use any group effort against the pilots.

Not picking up time has to be a personal and individual choice. “I” can survive on 75 hours so “I” have no reason to pick up knowing that my fellow pilots are on the unemployment line.

 

I was working Wednesday through Saturday that month. He gave me Friday and Saturday PTO. Sunday through Tuesday were my scheduled days off. I went back to work on Wednesday. So I had a total of 5 days off for my wedding and I didn’t have a honeymoon.

 

That’s pretty much what it is.

I’m pretty sure the senior guys would have been able to make the individual choice and either survive on 75 hours or less but chose not to.

Ultimately they made the selfish choice and looked out for themselves by not agreeing to concessions which could have potentially kept us on property.

I really hope they enjoy the money from open time created from our furloughs. AW made a business decision but the senior guys made a personal one.

I think they forgot that they’re also just a number like we are and are expendable too. Only thing is the circumstances favored them this time around.

There’s something called karma. Remember that when we’re standing in unemployment lines or having our homes repossessed or being evicted because we couldn’t find work or work that paid enough for us to look after our families.

 

I’m sorry, this whole thing sucks. But what the heck did you expect getting into this industry? It’s a seniority based system. If you really expected everyone to take 1 for the team then you’re woefully naive about how the real world works. FFS. No one owes you a damn thing other than what is agreed to in the contract.

 

United, Republic, and several others have at least put forth proposals to mitigate furloughs.... Whiskey is the exception rather than the norm this time around.

 

You say that as if it’s a bad thing. Look at those proposals...they gut the current contract at those places. Furloughs are temporary and part of this job. Concessions won’t ultimately stop furloughs, just make the job that much less appealing on the other side. FPLD.

 

They have sunset clauses on any concessions. At Republic they only apply to the people who were getting downgraded/furloughed anyway. It’s not “gutting the contract” if the contract snaps back to normal after a year.