quitty123456789

Actually Endeavor currently has 44% of their fleet parked with that percentage continually decreasing. We've already put a total of 39 aircraft back into service so far with more to come. Also, Air Wisconsin has 68% of their fleet parked, so I definitely wouldn't call that safe. And I don't think Endeavor is out of the woods or is safe from October 1, so I don't know of this koolaid you speak of. The ERJs were theoretically a thing 2 years ago, but we're definitely a CRJ operator to stay, so no way would we get 175s.

tonsterboy5

so I was slightly off, must of looked at slightly old data. I also never said ZW is safe, my point is nothing is safe at this point except maybe Skywest which flys more flights a day for United than United actually flies. One more thing to look at is the operational cost of edv vs. Zw how many planes that are parked at endeavor are they making payments on? How much office staff they have everything plays into it. Think about cash burn and how long delta is willing to subsidize before just cutting their losses and outsourcing all over again.

Rayjay

Endeavor will be operating 90% capacity in August. Company stated they do not intend to furlough.

Da Vinci

Did endeavor downgrade? Must be re assuring to hear that they won’t be furloughing but I think we are primed to furlough a decent number of pilots

tonsterboy5

this mainly comes down to United with the continued deep cuts and us only flying for them.
When they released June schedules passenger counts were at about 10% yoy and increasing rapidly... they set the schedules at 15%. By the time June started traffic was almost at 15%. They then released July schedules. Traffic was at 15% and they set schedules at 25%. We are not even to July yet and they are gonna be way behind. Hopefully in a few weeks when they figure out August they are realize they need to account for some “growth” if not we will be screwed come October. If United keeps on their current course they will be flying 40% capacity while everyone else is at 80ish% and actual triffid will be somewhere around 60-75% of last year.

I almost think United is doing this short term to pressure their pilots into negotiations and scope relief.

Rayjay

it’s possible. We’re closing a -200 base in nyc so It depends how the displacements shake out it.

gojo

So people often assume that because Endeavor pays their employees more than Skywest Or Republic that their operating costs are higher? And that might very well be the case? However, the CPA’s that Delta signs with Skywest or Republic also include profit margins. I mean why wouldn’t they? Endeavor doesn’t operate for profit. Hence why we will never get profit sharing. Delta gets those profits. Additionally, most office functions piggyback off of like departments at Delta in Atlanta. There’s very little duplication. The C tower in Minneapolis is Opps specific for the Airline/CRJ like dispatch, scheduling and also training and testing functions.

ninerdriver

This. 9E management is adamant that 9E has the lowest costs of the three DCI carriers for exactly those reasons.

Ciceda

Why are there a bunch of 9E pilots bragging about their "great" company in an Air Wisconsin thread talking about possible furloughs and the possibility of their company not existing in the future? You don;t even fly for the same code share, you have nothing in common with these guys.

Pure class. Be careful, Karma is a B.

DarkSideMoon

Probably because they were called out earlier in the thread as in danger.... By someone who doesn’t even work here.