Originally Posted by spottedcow

It’s not a different ownership group.

Originally Posted by AZwiz

Actually it is a different group. Awac is publicly traded

Originally Posted by Pyrotexo

Lol ya'lls payscale was good for like a week, now it's utter trash compared with AAWO, horizon, Mesa. Not to mention the crappy training department!

Originally Posted by TT15

No it’s not a different ownership group. The three amigos still have the controlling interest of Habor Diversified. Hence why CD is still the CEO of HD! The whole Habor Diversified deal was just a shell game for CJT!

Originally Posted by aviator199

You get washed out of training bud?

Originally Posted by idlethrust

2005?? 2008?? WTF
That was a different time , Awac was a different airline back then . Years ago they could pretty much set their own rates on the FFD program and rake in the cash .Everyone wanted them and their product .
Fast forward to 2017. Everyone knows the contract with UA wasn’t the greatest and the one with AA probably isn’t far behind . They have operated on a shoe string budget since then .
No one is beating their door down for the old , hot, clapped out deuces .
Maybe they will surprise everyone and blow Mesa out if the water with incredible rates . Highly unlikely, but we will see.
Awacs management is dilusional about the company and it’s current state . They seem to think it’s still the Awac from 2005 and 2008 , where they are doing you a favor to allow you to work at such a prestigious airline .You should be happy to work there so they don’t need to go over and above with great pay rates .

Originally Posted by BcULstDaBlodyWr

Check out their 10Q and 10Ks. HRBR profited like $100 million in 2021. I believe they were the only profitable airline if you don’t count government handouts. Don’t let anyone tell you they don’t have the money. Skywest and ZW are sitting on mountains of cash.

Originally Posted by Qwerty123

The $100M was due to the government handouts though so you can't exclude then.