Air Wisconsin
#3461
On that note, this place is still a nice place to work, minus the whole we don't have a future and contract fiasco.
#3462
I never heard of anyone getting "burned" by AWAC either.
As for morale, that's been swirling down the DC crew room poop pipe for a while now. I'm here now and every flush I hear is the sound of another resignation dropping
As for morale, that's been swirling down the DC crew room poop pipe for a while now. I'm here now and every flush I hear is the sound of another resignation dropping
#3463
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 417
I'll jump on the bandwagon. I've been here for five years. I've never been personally "burned.". Few cups of burned hotel coffee but otherwise it's been a great five years for me. Many will echo that sentiment. Yes, it's time to head for the life boats but to say this has been a bad place to work is patently false.
#3465
According to Crew Availability come tomorrow I will have made it 15 FOs this month. Unreal, but sadly not a surprise. There is no reason to stay here right now and it isn't hard for FOs with decent TT to get to an LCC. A lot of us are ending up at em now and its a great thing.
I'll jump on the bandwagon. I've been here for five years. I've never been personally "burned.". Few cups of burned hotel coffee but otherwise it's been a great five years for me. Many will echo that sentiment. Yes, it's time to head for the life boats but to say this has been a bad place to work is patently false.
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#3466
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: RJ
Posts: 215
While I say let it burn, I have not been burned personally. NH's that are let go are those that deserve to be gone. Even with all our staffing woes, I can honestly say thay air wis has not lowered their standards or expectations from even a millimeter from what they have been even before all this mess.
#3467
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 227
That's what I was thinking. And based on the fact of "who would come here right now anyway?!"- probably a good bet.
#3468
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Joined APC: Feb 2012
Posts: 547
I can truly say that we keep the same high standards, but we try like hell to bring everyone up to them...even if it takes a lot of extra sessions.
If a candidate has experience/skill gaps...we try to close them...sometimes they are to wide.
If you feel you were burned by AWAC...then your expectations of what is reasonable is too out of wack.
#3469
I literally just sent mine 3 minutes ago. Feels absolutely amazing.
According to Crew Availability come tomorrow I will have made it 15 FOs this month. Unreal, but sadly not a surprise. There is no reason to stay here right now and it isn't hard for FOs with decent TT to get to an LCC. A lot of us are ending up at em now and its a great thing.
According to Crew Availability come tomorrow I will have made it 15 FOs this month. Unreal, but sadly not a surprise. There is no reason to stay here right now and it isn't hard for FOs with decent TT to get to an LCC. A lot of us are ending up at em now and its a great thing.
Look at the long term availability... the trips you would have flown are included there.
Good luck, and glad to see someone else be able to move on. Still waiting for the call...
#3470
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Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,094
I'm in a tough spot. Very junior CA here at AWAC. Not competitive enough for the legacies, can't afford the pay cut for the LLC's first year pay. Wondering if I should just hang tight and see what happens here (hopefully can get hired on to a legacy before FEB 2018) or jump ship to a commute air or PDT where I could get CA almost right off the bat. My biggest fear is a downgrade here at AWAC. Kind of wish I was a junior FO here and my choice would be easy.
I remember flying with a CA who just upgraded (2006-ish). This guy went out and bought a new $30k+ car. There goes your upgrade money! When I upgraded I bought a new suitcase (traded in the POS for a Purdy Neat).
I think this is a great lesson for guys on here. SAVE SAVE SAVE. You know the day will come. Don't put yourself in that situation. Don't buy a new car; don't buy a big house (unless wife is a doctor ). Live like you have as a first year F/O and pay off everything. This is so important.
Some guys might bail for a decent paying legacy. A select few. Most will end up at a LCC making $40k-$50k your first year. Maybe $60k-$70k your second. You might not catch up to AWAC CA pay for 3, 4, 5 years. I know a guy who lived in CLT turn down US Airways AFTER the merger because he couldn't afford the $35/hr first year pay (it went up to $75/hr about 10 months later). Great guy, but he put himself in that situation. He could be living in base, making $140k/yr working 3-5 days a month sitting short call on the 757...
I left AWAC at the beginning of Feb. My W2 showed $16k for that month. I made ~$30k the 11 months I was at my next carrier. I didn't miss a beat; I just put less in my savings account that year.
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