Air Wisconsin
11-11-2016, 05:46 AM
#4011
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Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 54
Originally Posted by el jefe
Double digits...
Tomorrow one FO reserve and eleven trips uncovered.
Results of the realignment should be out in the next week or two. I think the union and the company are meeting this month as well?
Tomorrow one FO reserve and eleven trips uncovered.
Results of the realignment should be out in the next week or two. I think the union and the company are meeting this month as well?
11-11-2016, 05:47 AM
#4012
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Gear Slinger
Posts: 316
First off, to my knowledge LCA's are not bidding for FO trips. They may be forced to fly in the right seat, which is legal by the contract whether you like it or not, but as far as I know there hasn't been any bidding for right seat flying. And secondly, why would you expect the LCA's to resign their position based on something out of their control that is not a contract violation. I'm not sure how many other airlines out there do it, but there are at least a few that give every captain dual seat qualification, not just LCA's, so at least be happy we aren't in that position.
11-11-2016, 06:02 AM
#4013
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 239
Originally Posted by wags3539
First off, to my knowledge LCA's are not bidding for FO trips. They may be forced to fly in the right seat, which is legal by the contract whether you like it or not, but as far as I know there hasn't been any bidding for right seat flying. And secondly, why would you expect the LCA's to resign their position based on something out of their control that is not a contract violation. I'm not sure how many other airlines out there do it, but there are at least a few that give every captain dual seat qualification, not just LCA's, so at least be happy we aren't in that position.
11-11-2016, 06:13 AM
#4015
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Gear Slinger
Posts: 316
Originally Posted by highflyer0685
Take a look at flica bid awards. Several LCA did not bid for DEC CA lines. I'm not going to drop names on here but there are some missing and if you pull up their schedules for dec on CSS it is blank.
To my understanding there are multiple meetings this month between the company and union, so hopefully they can work out a TA, and announce a future for the company shortly. Whatever that future is, people here need to know so they can plan accordingly.
11-11-2016, 06:41 AM
#4016
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Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: CRJ200
Posts: 81
Originally Posted by highflyer0685
Take a look at flica bid awards. Several LCA did not bid for DEC CA lines. I'm not going to drop names on here but there are some missing and if you pull up their schedules for dec on CSS it is blank.
11-11-2016, 06:48 AM
#4017
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 239
Originally Posted by trevtt600
I can guarantee you that our LCA's are not bidding to fly right seat. I know cause I'm one of them. When they are not bidding a line, it usually means they are planed to do line checks that month.
11-11-2016, 07:57 AM
#4019
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: RJ CA (does it really matter)
Posts: 198
Originally Posted by FODhopper
The LCAs were pulled by scheduling to fly four day trips in Dec as FOs as part of an FAA approved "Data gathering" program... I have no idea what the data gathering is for but...this is real.
The LCAs don't like it any more than we do. Why do it? If they don't, then it's insubordination.
It does stink. I agree.
But the LCAs I've flown with all say "I'm just the FO. I'm not doing OE. You're the Captain. I'm just along for the ride."
I've had no issues with any of them.
I wish the company the best of luck trying to recruit new hires.
They've seem to be very few of them.
11-11-2016, 08:18 AM
#4020
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 240
Originally Posted by FODhopper
The LCAs were pulled by scheduling to fly four day trips in Dec as FOs as part of an FAA approved "Data gathering" program... I have no idea what the data gathering is for but...this is real.
I'm curious as to how they got approval. We have had only a few upgrades in the past year, which is typically the mentoring timeframe, at least for IOE. How do you get approval to "mentor" a 9 year captain?
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