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Old 02-09-2017 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RANGER211
Sounds like you spend more than u make. I for one am happy to take 75 and work 60. Work less make more!!
As long as the trips are efficient..
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Old 02-09-2017 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RANGER211
Sounds like you spend more than u make. I for one am happy to take 75 and work 60. Work less make more!!


Who says I spend what I make?? Whether you spend it or not when you're used to a lot more come in and now it's a lot less it's bothersome as that's not the trend you like to see as you progress in your career. As I said, depends where you are in life.


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Old 02-09-2017 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
As long as the trips are efficient..


Yes. Especially all of the day 1s with no min day tacked on.


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Old 02-09-2017 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SideFlare
Well, that remains to be seen... so far what the company is saying appears to be legit. Maybe it's all smoke and mirrors, but I'll happily wait it out through May, collect my retention bonus, and then figure it out. Honestly, what's three months in the grand scheme of things? They're publicizing it an awful lot for what you seem to believe is a continuation of the silence. If it is, I'll make my jump in may and hope for the best. For now, I'll continue to remain a believer and hope that AWAC will continue to do what it does best... make money. Best of luck to us all.
Three examples of things mgmt has said that seemed legit at the time with a couple airlines that have foolishly employed my dumb arse: 1. ORD 175 base, with a corresponding bid that was canceled after a week or two (Envoy). 2. A Dash-8-200 base in PHX taking over for Mesa in 2009, this one was given life by the DO (PDT). 3. A CRJ DFW base, with a bid that ran and was awarded, with beaucoup senior pilots finally being able to bid back to DFW on current equipment...it was subsequently canceled after about two weeks.

I admire your optimism and hope that it works out for your guys, but with the fluid nature of the airline business - and especially a Parker led airline business, I would be seeking other alternatives. Back yourself up, and by the time May rolls around, you'll know one way or another. (Maybe)
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Old 02-10-2017 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SideFlare
Well, that remains to be seen... so far what the company is saying appears to be legit. Maybe it's all smoke and mirrors, but I'll happily wait it out through May, collect my retention bonus, and then figure it out. Honestly, what's three months in the grand scheme of things? They're publicizing it an awful lot for what you seem to believe is a continuation of the silence. If it is, I'll make my jump in may and hope for the best. For now, I'll continue to remain a believer and hope that AWAC will continue to do what it does best... make money. Best of luck to us all.
So ask yourself what's left? Nothing bigger than 76 seats, 76 seat planes scoped out already, and the 50 seat market is shrinking. I'm not sure where they're going to get it from? Additionally, how will they compete with the wholly owned incentives? Good luck
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Old 02-10-2017 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyHo
Yea and nothing like taking a dump on the captains... glad they signed that loa.


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The CAs retention bonus goes up too if they raise the FOs. It's in the LOA.
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Old 02-10-2017 | 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilotdude3407
The CAs retention bonus goes up too if they raise the FOs. It's in the LOA.
Not necessarily. The FO just can't be paid more than a captain would at the same longevity on the payscale.

(FO bonus + min salary) < (CA bonus + min salary)

Y1 CA makes $59,000 + $6,000 bonus = $65,000. Y1 FO makes $31,000 min salary. That's a difference of $34,000. That's how much bonus money the company is allowed to pay Y1 FOs without paying the captains any more.

Do the same math at each pay scale to find the lowest difference. That is the max allowable retention bonus, before they must pay more to captains. I do not see a limit on the signing bonus, however.

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Old 02-10-2017 | 06:44 AM
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I wonder what happy hour at Anduzzis will bring tonight ?!
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Old 02-10-2017 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by schmohawk
I wonder what happy hour at Anduzzis will bring tonight ?!
We already got our email from Corporate this week.

Can't send out too many. Might give the plebs hope.
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Old 02-10-2017 | 01:56 PM
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Yea but those happy hour long islands get one so Jib jabby
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