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Old 02-09-2017, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyHo View Post
Maybe that's the part of quick upgrades... captains get sick of only making 75hrs and no reason to stick around
Make guarantee and work 20 hours less? Sounds like a deal to me.
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Old 02-09-2017, 06:07 PM
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Why do you think they hung that carrot of "talks with a major" out there? This is why. Desperate for some good news, everyone bought it hook line and sinker despite management's recent credibility.
Well, that remains to be seen... so far what the company is saying appears to be legit. Maybe it's all smoke and mirrors, but I'll happily wait it out through May, collect my retention bonus, and then figure it out. Honestly, what's three months in the grand scheme of things? They're publicizing it an awful lot for what you seem to believe is a continuation of the silence. If it is, I'll make my jump in may and hope for the best. For now, I'll continue to remain a believer and hope that AWAC will continue to do what it does best... make money. Best of luck to us all.

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Old 02-09-2017, 06:22 PM
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Make guarantee and work 20 hours less? Sounds like a deal to me.


Yea depends where you are in life I guess. Those of us that bid 85 to 90 hr lines and pick up to make a credit of 105 to 115+ sure are feeling it.


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Old 02-09-2017, 06:57 PM
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Yea depends where you are in life I guess. Those of us that bid 85 to 90 hr lines and pick up to make a credit of 105 to 115+ sure are feeling it.


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Sounds like you spend more than u make. I for one am happy to take 75 and work 60. Work less make more!!
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Old 02-09-2017, 07:05 PM
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Sounds like you spend more than u make. I for one am happy to take 75 and work 60. Work less make more!!
As long as the trips are efficient..
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Old 02-09-2017, 07:16 PM
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Sounds like you spend more than u make. I for one am happy to take 75 and work 60. Work less make more!!


Who says I spend what I make?? Whether you spend it or not when you're used to a lot more come in and now it's a lot less it's bothersome as that's not the trend you like to see as you progress in your career. As I said, depends where you are in life.


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Old 02-09-2017, 07:17 PM
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As long as the trips are efficient..


Yes. Especially all of the day 1s with no min day tacked on.


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Old 02-09-2017, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SideFlare View Post
Well, that remains to be seen... so far what the company is saying appears to be legit. Maybe it's all smoke and mirrors, but I'll happily wait it out through May, collect my retention bonus, and then figure it out. Honestly, what's three months in the grand scheme of things? They're publicizing it an awful lot for what you seem to believe is a continuation of the silence. If it is, I'll make my jump in may and hope for the best. For now, I'll continue to remain a believer and hope that AWAC will continue to do what it does best... make money. Best of luck to us all.
Three examples of things mgmt has said that seemed legit at the time with a couple airlines that have foolishly employed my dumb arse: 1. ORD 175 base, with a corresponding bid that was canceled after a week or two (Envoy). 2. A Dash-8-200 base in PHX taking over for Mesa in 2009, this one was given life by the DO (PDT). 3. A CRJ DFW base, with a bid that ran and was awarded, with beaucoup senior pilots finally being able to bid back to DFW on current equipment...it was subsequently canceled after about two weeks.

I admire your optimism and hope that it works out for your guys, but with the fluid nature of the airline business - and especially a Parker led airline business, I would be seeking other alternatives. Back yourself up, and by the time May rolls around, you'll know one way or another. (Maybe)
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Old 02-10-2017, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SideFlare View Post
Well, that remains to be seen... so far what the company is saying appears to be legit. Maybe it's all smoke and mirrors, but I'll happily wait it out through May, collect my retention bonus, and then figure it out. Honestly, what's three months in the grand scheme of things? They're publicizing it an awful lot for what you seem to believe is a continuation of the silence. If it is, I'll make my jump in may and hope for the best. For now, I'll continue to remain a believer and hope that AWAC will continue to do what it does best... make money. Best of luck to us all.
So ask yourself what's left? Nothing bigger than 76 seats, 76 seat planes scoped out already, and the 50 seat market is shrinking. I'm not sure where they're going to get it from? Additionally, how will they compete with the wholly owned incentives? Good luck
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Old 02-10-2017, 02:44 AM
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Yea and nothing like taking a dump on the captains... glad they signed that loa.


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The CAs retention bonus goes up too if they raise the FOs. It's in the LOA.
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