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Old 02-06-2017 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FL451
so you are no longer on property but you feel the need to lurk and troll this board?
Some previous AWAC employees (myself included) only left because of the uncertain future and a family to support. I would hope you can understand and respect that.
I like to check up in the forums from time to time. Not being a troll, just interested in what happens. I still have good friends still there and hope the best for everyone.
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Old 02-06-2017 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
Some previous AWAC employees (myself included) only left because of the uncertain future and a family to support. I would hope you can understand and respect that.
I like to check up in the forums from time to time. Not being a troll, just interested in what happens. I still have good friends still there and hope the best for everyone.
^^that... there are plenty of AWACs finest who left and continue to contribute to helping those of us that chose to remain behind. Go back 500 or so posts and see who offered constructive information before you accuse anyone of being a troll. To those that left for greener pastures and continue to assist, I salute you. Thanks.
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Old 02-06-2017 | 07:22 PM
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In the meantime, I got rerouted 3 times today... blocked 8 on a 12 hour day. Bidding no longer has a meaning, line holders are now essentially reservists. FML.

When pilots bail from the service door, you know things have gotten weird.

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Old 02-06-2017 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FL451
so you are no longer on property but you feel the need to lurk and troll this board?
He doesn't troll.

I can understand him leaving.

Trolls are the ones trying to split referal bonuses. Everyone else, including billy, are mostly harmless.
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Old 02-08-2017 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumbletrousers
He doesn't troll.

I can understand him leaving.

Trolls are the ones trying to split referal bonuses. Everyone else, including billy, are mostly harmless.
I love it when FL451 comes on here and loses his mind. Good Stuff. Happens about every 3 weeks.
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Old 02-08-2017 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SideFlare
In the meantime, I got rerouted 3 times today... blocked 8 on a 12 hour day. Bidding no longer has a meaning, line holders are now essentially reservists. FML.

When pilots bail from the service door, you know things have gotten weird.
I feel terrible for you guys.. it's bull stuff that we are flying the same exact American passenger and yet all the groups are treated differently. Contract flying has to come to and end.. only mainline!
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Old 02-08-2017 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SideFlare
Seriously? FOD had been the voice of reason at AWAC for quite some time. He made the choice to move and I wish him the best, much like the others that moved on. The furthest thing from a troll I've ever seen... also a top notch indoc/systems instructor that dedicated his time to bettering the company. If you're looking for trolls there are plenty of worthy targets at whom to direct you anger, dude.
Some very nice sentiments there...it was a painful decision to leave if you look at the temperment of the pilot group, work rules as a whole, standards of performance and the support staff...there was no reason to leave. And I defended that on this forum for many years...against, yes trolls, from outside the company.

But if you look at the lack of communication from the top level managers; it made it difficult to sacrifice, on vague information, another year as an FO without upgrading (when every other regional had movement) with the increased pay and more importantly, the 121 PIC time that fuels career advancement.

The decision by FOs to leave AWAC or stay is not a monolithic one...its very personal and individual based on their specific situation.

Thankfully that is much easier now that the compensation is starting to catch up and much more solid, actionable information on the future of the company has been communicated.
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Old 02-08-2017 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FODhopper
Thankfully that is much easier now that the compensation is starting to catch up and much more solid, actionable information on the future of the company has been communicated.

I've seen the increased 1st year FO pay with the bonus but haven't seen anything as far as a future beyond next January or ways to fix the mobility problem. Is there some new information out there?



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Old 02-08-2017 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tester130
I've seen the increased 1st year FO pay with the bonus but haven't seen anything as far as a future beyond next January or ways to fix the mobility problem. Is there some new information out there?



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Old 02-08-2017 | 02:52 PM
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In negotiations with a "major airline" and nda's of course.
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