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Old 04-15-2017, 08:52 AM
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Yes there is a lot of information to memorize. I would argue that the info is good and pertinent to your job.

I found AWAC's training and standards to be excellent and high which I appreciated (after the fact). It's a testament to their training that I fell back on it when going through training at my current carrier which wasn't as good IMO despite their significant investment in the training department and equipment.

When going through initial training at AWAC I sat along with some sims to learn and watch. I saw one session where the person ended up washing out at the end of the course. It was deserved. In my own class the top three most experienced guys didn't make it, two were current 121 turboprop guys.

I had a six week gap between sim and OE. Just stay up on procedures and use the time off to relax.
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Old 04-15-2017, 04:02 PM
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I heard the ground instructors were great
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:16 AM
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I heard the ground instructors were great
Since your apparently in the Air Wisconsin training department can you comment as to why in a recent newire class made up of six new hires, why only one made it through successfully? You can't blame that all on the pilots, this reeks of significant Air Wisconsin training program deficiencies in their new hire training program.
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:26 AM
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Since your apparently in the Air Wisconsin training department can you comment as to why in a recent newire class made up of six new hires, why only one made it through successfully? You can't blame that all on the pilots, this reeks of significant Air Wisconsin training program deficiencies in their new hire training program.
He's no longer at AWAC, dude... Enough guys make it through to demonstrate that it can be done. 7/8 made it through in my class, with the one that left being a raging dbag. He went on to get hired and promptly atritte over at Mesa. As to training department deficiencies, you can speculate all you want. Every instructor that I had was top notch, as was the evaluator during the check ride.
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Old 04-16-2017, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator View Post
Since your apparently in the Air Wisconsin training department can you comment as to why in a recent newire class made up of six new hires, why only one made it through successfully? You can't blame that all on the pilots, this reeks of significant Air Wisconsin training program deficiencies in their new hire training program.
Because our training department still has standards
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Old 04-16-2017, 09:48 AM
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Because our training department still has standards
Exactly this.
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Old 04-16-2017, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyPKP View Post
Because our training department still has standards
Standards? Being asked how much the battery weighs during an oral should be consodered having standards? I remember during recurrent a few years ago being asked what wiring was behind a certain panel. Who the F cares!

My new hire class in 2014 passed 7 of 8. The training department wasn't perfect but it wasn't terrible either.
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Old 04-16-2017, 11:01 AM
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The guy that was asked how much the battery weighed didn't know 1 answer to any question, so was asked a ridiculous question as more or less a joke. He failed needless to say. Awac has standards. Can't make it through here go to mesa or some other regional that only requires a pulse.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyPKP View Post
Because our training department still has standards
This.

You don't pass? That's on you.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SideFlare View Post
And the junior manning / reroutes are back in full force. My lineholder status means nothing, and the lines for next month are horrendous. We got a teaser of a decent month or two with the reduced flying, Now the status quo has returned. People are in class and more are coming, but it's going to take some serious hiring to offset the lack of staffing, especially once the summer rush hits. Get ready for a long few months, ladies and gentlemen.
Or carry on as if the United flying never happened and move on
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