Air Wisconsin
01-09-2017, 05:50 AM
#4701
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Originally Posted by FODhopper
If that captain was truly deadheading (as in assigned by crew scheduling) then crew scheduling could have said "he needs to take the jumpseat".
01-09-2017, 05:53 AM
#4702
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
Are you kidding me? I already explained the whole situation, as confirmed by the actual deadheader and the gate agent. He was 100% DEADHEADING, with a seat in the back. He gave it up voluntarily at the gate agents request.
I commute. Have for years. I know the difference between a JS and a deadheader and all the what-if scenarios on how he could have ended up in the jump.
Crew scheduling can say he has to take the jump? What if the JS is broken, or you will be overweight, or there is no ballast available at the station, or the captain doesn't want to take a jumpseater for some reason? If crew scheduling needs you somewhere, they give you a seat in the cabin. Nice try though.
One of your guys dropped the ball. Simple as that. Why do you have to continue to make excuses?
I commute. Have for years. I know the difference between a JS and a deadheader and all the what-if scenarios on how he could have ended up in the jump.
Crew scheduling can say he has to take the jump? What if the JS is broken, or you will be overweight, or there is no ballast available at the station, or the captain doesn't want to take a jumpseater for some reason? If crew scheduling needs you somewhere, they give you a seat in the cabin. Nice try though.
One of your guys dropped the ball. Simple as that. Why do you have to continue to make excuses?
Sounds like you got hosed and honestly for him to not come out and explain anything to you says a ton about him.
Like someone said, "there's always those few."
Don't burn bridges because you might not always live in base and I'm sure you'll remember this guy for a long time. Karma
It's one thing for a junior FO to do it (not Knowing) but not a senior guy.
01-09-2017, 06:21 AM
#4703
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
Are you kidding me? I already explained the whole situation, as confirmed by the actual deadheader and the gate agent. He was 100% DEADHEADING, with a seat in the back. He gave it up voluntarily at the gate agents request.
I commute. Have for years. I know the difference between a JS and a deadheader and all the what-if scenarios on how he could have ended up in the jump.
Crew scheduling can say he has to take the jump? What if the JS is broken, or you will be overweight, or there is no ballast available at the station, or the captain doesn't want to take a jumpseater for some reason? If crew scheduling needs you somewhere, they give you a seat in the cabin. Nice try though.
One of your guys dropped the ball. Simple as that. Why do you have to continue to make excuses?
I commute. Have for years. I know the difference between a JS and a deadheader and all the what-if scenarios on how he could have ended up in the jump.
Crew scheduling can say he has to take the jump? What if the JS is broken, or you will be overweight, or there is no ballast available at the station, or the captain doesn't want to take a jumpseater for some reason? If crew scheduling needs you somewhere, they give you a seat in the cabin. Nice try though.
One of your guys dropped the ball. Simple as that. Why do you have to continue to make excuses?
In cockpit. We've all had the rug pulled out. I was pulled from the JS once by a fed who was observing on his way home at the last minute.
01-09-2017, 06:24 AM
#4704
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Can Air Willy really survive on it's own? It seems the only logical way to protect routes and more importantly slots. Air Willy could fold and ship the aircraft to PSA. It's really sad to see the once great Air Wisconsin, a route system that crossed the country, have such issues. It might seem silly but it makes me sad. I remember their heydays, Aspen Airways, the 146, the F27 etc...
01-09-2017, 06:26 AM
#4705
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Originally Posted by Braniff DC8
Can Air Willy really survive on it's own? It seems the only logical way to protect routes and more importantly slots. Air Willy could fold and ship the aircraft to PSA. It's really sad to see the once great Air Wisconsin, a route system that crossed the country, have such issues. It might seem silly but it makes me sad. I remember their heydays, Aspen Airways, the 146, the F27 etc...
01-09-2017, 06:27 AM
#4706
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01-09-2017, 07:10 AM
#4708
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Originally Posted by msprj2
Dude, sounds like the dh pilot didn't have a seat in the back either. The company would have had to buy a pax off and rebook that person or just put dh
In cockpit. We've all had the rug pulled out. I was pulled from the JS once by a fed who was observing on his way home at the last minute.
In cockpit. We've all had the rug pulled out. I was pulled from the JS once by a fed who was observing on his way home at the last minute.
Are you seriously still battling me on this? He was deadheading and had a seat assigned to him in the back. That's a fact. The agent herself and the deadheader told me so. Why can't you just accept that? Jesus.
01-09-2017, 08:02 AM
#4709
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Originally Posted by Braniff DC8
Can Air Willy really survive on it's own? It seems the only logical way to protect routes and more importantly slots. Air Willy could fold and ship the aircraft to PSA. It's really sad to see the once great Air Wisconsin, a route system that crossed the country, have such issues. It might seem silly but it makes me sad. I remember their heydays, Aspen Airways, the 146, the F27 etc...
01-09-2017, 08:10 AM
#4710
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
Are you seriously still battling me on this? He was deadheading and had a seat assigned to him in the back. That's a fact. The agent herself and the deadheader told me so. Why can't you just accept that? Jesus.
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