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09-07-2017, 10:02 AM

#31

crooked

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Originally Posted by greaser

Scope.... Are you listening, Alaska brothers & sisters???

Unfortunately the scope Alaska gets after arbitration won'l limit how many 76 seaters get to be at Alaska. Unless we go after all flying, no matter the size of the airplane, the 175's will just keep coming.

09-07-2017, 10:19 AM

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sACKtis

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Originally Posted by Wynncore

I won't comment further but I cannot underscore more just how important and critical the forthcoming decision on scope is going to be.

What decision? It's it just like a seat limit, not on actual hulls? Lotta good that would do when they have 500 ERJs and 100 737s

09-07-2017, 12:43 PM

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All Skywest.

09-07-2017, 07:09 PM

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I wouldn't worry too much right now about the 175s. I've heard they are being used to provide feed for Virgin aircraft and to get Alaska into markets they don't yet have the metal for. Mainline flying is increasing so all is not dire yet. Alaska pilots better pray the arbitration panel agrees with them on scope and holds the line at 76 seats.

09-08-2017, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Moose

I thought Alaska bought Virgin? Wouldn't an increase of of 175's to Virgin be an increase to Alaska? I have a lot to learn. I've been worrying about nothing!

09-09-2017, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by crooked

Unfortunately you can thank Alaska MEC, their JNC members on that one. Got it straight from the horses mouth, I can't believe the mentality of AS ALPA . 😳😳😳😳

09-12-2017, 09:24 PM

#37

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Originally Posted by busbusbaby

Unfortunately you can thank Alaska MEC, their JNC members on that one. Got it straight from the horses mouth, I can't believe the mentality of AS ALPA . 😳😳😳😳

Other than "0" or "there shouldn't be any outsourcing," what is your idea for a ratio?

09-12-2017, 09:27 PM

#38

Wynncore

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Please stop discussing any topic pending arbitration, scope especially, until the award is announced.

09-12-2017, 11:22 PM

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Yetifan

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Originally Posted by Wynncore

Please stop discussing any topic pending arbitration, scope especially, until the award is announced.

Adults are talking here. Go to the corner and observe until you're called upon newbie...

09-13-2017, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cesnacaptn

Other than "0" or "there shouldn't be any outsourcing," what is your idea for a ratio?

Well, I'd gather a list of airlines that Alaska management is comparing us to for pay purposes. Then I'd add up all of the mainline hulls at those companies and divide by the total number of outsourced hulls at those companies.

My point is if they want to include Frontier/Spirit/Allegiant/Jetblue/Virgin rates for our pay comparison, I'd like to include them in the average for what an "industry standard" scope ratio would look like.

Otherwise they can compare our outsourcing to DAL/AMR/UAL only, and I'll compare the pay to only those companies.