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Old 02-05-2018 | 09:31 PM
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ANC average days off in hard lines = 14.15

LAX average days off in hard lines = 14.96

PDX average days off in hard lines = 15.23

SEA average days off in hard lines = 14.69

Maybe I’m wrong but seniority is meant to control schedule and protect from furlough. That’s it. We don’t exactly have awesome schedules to work with in the first place - on the boeing side at least. Seems like we need to stop worrying about SLI and start considering the fact that the problem isn’t seniority, it’s the schedules and work rules that are the problem. Those can get fixed. But they won’t if pilots are blaming pilots for their crappy schedule. Seniority will be what it’s going to be, best to look ahead to fix the real issues. That’s my 2 cents as
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Old 02-06-2018 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by usernamehere
ANC average days off in hard lines = 14.15

LAX average days off in hard lines = 14.96

PDX average days off in hard lines = 15.23

SEA average days off in hard lines = 14.69

Maybe I’m wrong but seniority is meant to control schedule and protect from furlough. That’s it. We don’t exactly have awesome schedules to work with in the first place - on the boeing side at least. Seems like we need to stop worrying about SLI and start considering the fact that the problem isn’t seniority, it’s the schedules and work rules that are the problem. Those can get fixed. But they won’t if pilots are blaming pilots for their crappy schedule. Seniority will be what it’s going to be, best to look ahead to fix the real issues. That’s my 2 cents as
someone hired after the merger.
That amount of days off is an absolute embarrassment! That's average so 12 days off must be around 70% of the lines??? How is that even close to ok with you people??
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Old 02-06-2018 | 04:02 AM
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These averages shown do not tell the whole story since most lines are non-commutable and you’ll loose, depending on number of trips, at least another 4-6 to commuting! Total crap... I get 17 days off now and commute mostly the same day out and back, so 17 days are “True” Days off!!!
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Old 02-06-2018 | 06:38 AM
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But I thought Alaska’s line bidding was superior to VX’s horrible pbs.
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Old 02-06-2018 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Yetifan
That amount of days off is an absolute embarrassment! That's average so 12 days off must be around 70% of the lines??? How is that even close to ok with you people??
Not 70%. I THINK it’s closer to 10%-12%. It starts at 12 and goes up through 20 I believe.
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Old 02-06-2018 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by usernamehere
Not 70%. I THINK it’s closer to 10%-12%. It starts at 12 and goes up through 20 I believe.

You may want to check your math the lines suck $#&@% *&/$$@#
And ther amount of 12 day lines is way to high along with that stupid 48 hour deal. For the life of me I can’t see how you accepted that as good.
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Old 02-06-2018 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by OCCP
But I thought Alaska’s line bidding was superior to VX’s horrible pbs.
It’s the pairing construction that needs fixing. PBS vs. Line bidding has little to do with average days off.
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Old 02-06-2018 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DangleDunlops
It’s the pairing construction that needs fixing. PBS vs. Line bidding has little to do with average days off.


Yes I get that but still. I’d rather have pbs with junk pairings than line bidding with junk pairings.
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Old 02-06-2018 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by busbusbaby
You may want to check your math the lines suck $#&@% *&/$$@#
And ther amount of 12 day lines is way to high along with that stupid 48 hour deal. For the life of me I can’t see how you accepted that as good.
So, I went and looked to see what it actually was, in SEA out of 392 lines it’s 27 lines with 12 days off. That comes out to 6.8877ish % (if I’m doing math correctly).

Also, I never said it was “good.” I just wanted to give reliable info. I think the best course of action is for pilots to be unified and look towards the future in order to affect change where we can, and hopefully make things better for everyone.
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Old 02-06-2018 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by usernamehere
So, I went and looked to see what it actually was, in SEA out of 392 lines it’s 27 lines with 12 days off. That comes out to 6.8877ish % (if I’m doing math correctly).

Also, I never said it was “good.” I just wanted to give reliable info. I think the best course of action is for pilots to be unified and look towards the future in order to affect change where we can, and hopefully make things better for everyone.
That’s 27 lines too many. How many had less than 16... This is a career airline right with pilots who want to see there families for more than half the month??!
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