SLI reality check fo VX
02-06-2018 | 09:43 AM
#131
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If the company starts mixing the VX/AS route structure the pairings will probably end up being better on average. AS has way too many East Coast destinations with only one or two flights a day. If they can mix and match some of the routes the pairings should improve.
Either way PBS isn't going to fix pairing construction and given AS ALPA's negotiating track record I'm doubtful that whatever PBS language they do negotiation won't be a Sheet Sandwich..
02-06-2018 | 05:36 PM
#132
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From: Have gun, will travel
At least with PBS you can mitigate the damage by stacking non-commutable trips next to each other and minimize the number of commutes each month. That alone could be worth several days a month of being at home that don't necessarily show up on the actual schedules. I agree that what's within the lines might be inefficient as hell, but at least with PBS you have more flexibility to choose what kind of ****** sandwich you want to have.
02-06-2018 | 05:58 PM
#133
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From: 737 CA
At least with PBS you can mitigate the damage by stacking non-commutable trips next to each other and minimize the number of commutes each month. That alone could be worth several days a month of being at home that don't necessarily show up on the actual schedules. I agree that what's within the lines might be inefficient as hell, but at least with PBS you have more flexibility to choose what kind of ****** sandwich you want to have.
No to PBS unless management is willing to give the pilot group control over writing pairings, running the software, etc. We also need transparency.
It's way past time for this pilot group to ask management what they're willing to give up for PBS implementation. We should run PBS the way Delta does... and we should demand Delta work rules.
I'm fed up with B&B's BS and secret sauce.
/end rant
02-06-2018 | 06:03 PM
#134
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I don't trust AAG management and our crew planning with PBS. They will use it to their advantage to the fullest extent. It will be yet another weapon for them to make us even more productive. They want it badly for a reason... and it's not just for cost cutting.
No to PBS unless management is willing to give the pilot group control over writing pairings, running the software, etc. We also need transparency.
It's way past time for this pilot group to ask management what they're willing to give up for PBS implementation. We should run PBS the way Delta does... and we should demand Delta work rules.
I'm fed up with B&B's BS and secret sauce.
/end rant
No to PBS unless management is willing to give the pilot group control over writing pairings, running the software, etc. We also need transparency.
It's way past time for this pilot group to ask management what they're willing to give up for PBS implementation. We should run PBS the way Delta does... and we should demand Delta work rules.
I'm fed up with B&B's BS and secret sauce.
/end rant
02-06-2018 | 06:56 PM
#135
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From: Driving to work & Looking Left @ the Surf!!
No matter what proof you show them they will never go for PBS. Senior DAL 737 Capt's have 18 days off/70hrs (no training or vacation) and junior Capts have 18 or 17 days off. Not only are there more days off, you can chose your type of trips and on which days.
Baja.
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02-06-2018 | 07:05 PM
#136
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From: Driving to work & Looking Left @ the Surf!!
I don't trust AAG management and our crew planning with PBS. They will use it to their advantage to the fullest extent. It will be yet another weapon for them to make us even more productive. They want it badly for a reason... and it's not just for cost cutting.
No to PBS unless management is willing to give the pilot group control over writing pairings, running the software, etc. We also need transparency.
It's way past time for this pilot group to ask management what they're willing to give up for PBS implementation. We should run PBS the way Delta does... and we should demand Delta work rules.
I'm fed up with B&B's BS and secret sauce.
/end rant
No to PBS unless management is willing to give the pilot group control over writing pairings, running the software, etc. We also need transparency.
It's way past time for this pilot group to ask management what they're willing to give up for PBS implementation. We should run PBS the way Delta does... and we should demand Delta work rules.
I'm fed up with B&B's BS and secret sauce.
/end rant
Baja.
02-06-2018 | 07:59 PM
#138
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I want DCA, SAN, ORD and HNL next month with a stretch of approx 8 days off. Preferably 3 or 4 four-day trips that are commutable on one or both ends. At approx 50% FO seniority at VX, I think I'll be real close to getting that. Would that be feasible with AS line bidding?
02-06-2018 | 08:42 PM
#140
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I'm genuinely asking about some of the mechanics on how well/flexible the trip trading is.
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