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symbian simian 05-02-2018 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by PokerPilot007 (Post 2583978)
I lose 10% on the list and lose 33% of my longevity. Please tell me how I'm hitting the lottery?? I would have been better off with DOH!

I guess what you mean is you lose 10% relative seniority and are slotted with AAG pilots with 33% less time on property. You don’t lose longevity because of that, presumably your pay/vacation accrual are still based on original DOH, let me know if I’m wrong. FWIW I think VA is the reasonable party here.

Also AAG overpayed for something they didn’t even want and now everyone is butthurt.

rickair7777 05-02-2018 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Just a Lurker (Post 2584622)
Why does anyone bother engage these idiots? It’s obvious they haven’t read S-10s, SEC filings, the acquisition documents, the SLI transcripts, etc, etc. They’re just making crap up, or regurgitating rumors and nonsense they hear in cockpits as fact. For example, Iif you read the documents, Alaska approached VX first. Once VX’s board decided to sell, they went out and whipped up competition eventually gaining four more parties that drove the price up. They were hedge fund managers after all and knew the game.

The basic problem with some posters on here is that they are angry they aren’t guaranteed a windfall from AS acquiring VX. We are all just pilots flying from A to B and back. Whether your company makes a lot of money, acquires someone, merges, gets acquired, or fails, or gains routes and makes more money because someone else fails, it’s got NOTHING to do with you. Alaska did well for a long time. So what, it’s got nothing to do with how well the pilots flew. You didn't outfly the boys at Pan Am, TWA, etc. Alaska acquired VX, guess what, once again it had nothing to do with how well you flew. AND, get this, just because MANAGEMENT acquires someone doesn’t mean PILOTS get any benefits. A lot of guys on here seem to think there was something in this merger for them. Nope, your just a pilot. No different than a pilot whose company failed. Or who got acquired. ANY corporate level business decision could be good or bad for pilots. We are all just in it for the ride. That’s how a career as labor works. You want to make personal gains through corporate acquisitions, you’d best join management.

A lot of folks here would be wise to read and heed these words.

FNGFO 05-02-2018 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2584640)
A lot of folks here would be wise to read and heed these words.

Yes, but it’s much easier to walk around thinking you’re a sky god, thumping your chest proclaiming that you’re an OG (original goober) and pretending like the pilots of the acquired company spent their days praying to be hired by your company while knowing they’d never be good enough.

You probably need tweezers to make use of a urinal if things like built vs bought or hired vs acquired even crosses your mind let alone passes your lips.

All Bizniz 05-02-2018 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by Just a Lurker (Post 2584622)
Why does anyone bother engage these idiots? It’s obvious they haven’t read S-10s, SEC filings, the acquisition documents, the SLI transcripts, etc, etc. They’re just making crap up, or regurgitating rumors and nonsense they hear in cockpits as fact. For example, Iif you read the documents, Alaska approached VX first. Once VX’s board decided to sell, they went out and whipped up competition eventually gaining four more parties that drove the price up.

Well said.... Sadly, there are some folks on here who consistently and continuously ignore the facts and logics as presented, in favor of their rabid and emotional protestations about the "other side" getting ahead at their expense...

Let's see how long this takes 3.. 2.. 1.. (Little bit of psychology here.. Lol)

All Bizniz 05-02-2018 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2584657)
Yes, but it’s much easier to walk around thinking you’re a sky god, thumping your chest proclaiming that you’re an OG (original goober) and pretending like the pilots of the acquired company spent their days praying to be hired by your company while knowing they’d never be good enough.

You probably need tweezers to make use of a urinal if things like built vs bought or hired vs acquired even crosses your mind let alone passes your lips.

Now that's some funny sh** right there!! Lol

I guess if VX guys made up bag tags that said "DRAFTED NOT SHAFTED!", some of our AS brothers would just totally lose it!!
I kid, I kid : ))

2loud 05-02-2018 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by All Bizniz (Post 2584664)
Now that's some funny sh** right there!! Lol

I guess if VX guys made up bag tags that said "DRAFTED NOT SHAFTED!", some of our AS brothers would just totally lose it!!
I kid, I kid : ))

“Tagged and bagged by the sagged”

All Bizniz 05-03-2018 02:46 AM


Originally Posted by 2loud (Post 2584946)
“Tagged and bagged by the sagged”

Took you 6 hours to come up with that, huh? Lol

flywest 05-03-2018 10:37 AM

Proud to be a OG! Can't wait to to bid the bus out of SEA and do the north south flying the VX people hate. It's the best! Now if they would only bring back my MD80.

flywest 05-03-2018 10:48 AM

Heck the bus might become the new MD80. North south bird. I'm just not going back to a round dial Boeing flying SE. Did my time. OG's Rock!

2loud 05-03-2018 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by All Bizniz (Post 2585238)
Took you 6 hours to come up with that, huh? Lol

Lighten up, Francis!


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