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View Poll Results: What Hybrid methodology in the AS-VX ISL
15% ALOS/85% Status (VX proposal)
24
30.00%
30% ALOS/70% Status (232 AS pilots on top)
15
18.75%
40% ALOS/60% Status (318 AS pilots on top)
8
10.00%
50%ALOS/50% Status (410 AS pilots on top)
9
11.25%
60% ALOS/40% Status (508 AS pilots on top)
7
8.75%
70% ALOS/30% Status (AS pilots position)
8
10.00%
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9
11.25%
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Alaska - Virgin SLI Predictions Poll

Old 10-11-2018 | 12:37 PM
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Will VX Captains be forced out of seat? Was the integration 1 for 2(3)? Can any of you elaborate?
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Old 10-11-2018 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by IFlyEm
I'm going to to say all the senior captains at VX are inclined to disagree. Aside of a pay increase, which both pilot groups benefited from, the VX pilots have been nothing but harmed. QOL, base closure, loss of seniority, line bidding, 737, etc. There really hasn't been any real positive for the VX guys.
Were not most of those things caused by the merger itself, prior to any SLI?
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Old 10-11-2018 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
Will VX Captains be forced out of seat? Was the integration 1 for 2(3)? Can any of you elaborate?
No one can be forced out of their seat. The arbitrator put the most senior vx below the first 550ish AK pilots and then mixed in the vx guys based on a formula that doesn't appear to be very favorable to VX.
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Old 10-11-2018 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
Were not most of those things caused by the merger itself, prior to any SLI?
True. And moral is at an all time low. The SLI is just another slap on the face.
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Old 10-11-2018 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lowflying
No one can be forced out of their seat. The arbitrator put the most senior vx below the first 550ish AK pilots and then mixed in the vx guys based on a formula that doesn't appear to be very favorable to VX.
Well, we dont know that to be completely true on the seat protection. My guess is as soon as they start moving airplanes and opening and closing bases all bets are off and the VX Xaptains are screwed.
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Old 10-11-2018 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
Were not most of those things caused by the merger itself, prior to any SLI?
I think his intention was to make the point that this ISL award just added insult to injury when all the other things he listed are considered..

Given a choice, I think the overwhelming majority of VX pilots would have never traded their position at VX for the position we're in right now and with the prospects of it getting worse...

And I'm not hating the players (fellow legacy AS pilots), I'm hating the game.. 😩 lol
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Old 10-11-2018 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
[MOD INPUT]: Again, please don't publish the new seniority list here.



The arbitration award however is fair game, and would be of interest to other pilots who might be subject to M&A in the future.


Anyone care to post the arbitration award portion? Would love to read the arbitrators reasoning.


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Old 10-11-2018 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Anyone care to post the arbitration award portion? Would love to read the arbitrators reasoning.


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How many pilots were in each list before hand.
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Old 10-11-2018 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
Anyone want to send me a good study guide for that 321. PM me thanks
Well, it’s the same as the 320 (because you’re that smart and you knew that) and the odds of flying it are few and far between. According to people attending to the wannabe koolaid sessions it’ll be gone soon anyway. It’s probably best to stop the gloating while you’re ahead.
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Old 10-11-2018 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 4andCounting
Well, we dont know that to be completely true on the seat protection. My guess is as soon as they start moving airplanes and opening and closing bases all bets are off and the VX Xaptains are screwed.
Yes they do. Check out the C&R regarding captains being displaced. Better language then either VX or As proposed regarding protections.
Most in the bottom 50% VX are pleased. Several did better then the proposal VX gave.

To put it simply. Guys that couldn’t hold Airbus captain now have 73 captains below them.
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