Alaska or Jetblue?
06-19-2019 | 06:32 PM
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06-20-2019 | 02:52 PM
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06-24-2019 | 07:35 PM
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I don't care how much better JB's work rules are compared to AS, it is not different enough to offset the pain and expense of a trans-con commute. The LGB base for JB is small, senior and shrinking, the LAX/SNA is base is super junior, and flies both the both the 737 and Bus, making it easy for anyone who wants it to get it.
Upgrade time - it will be awhile for anyone getting hired right now no doubt. Dont even think about upgrade it is such wild speculation tha you should just presume that you will be an FO UFN. If you are happy with the FO pay scale compared to where you are now then you should go to Alaska.
Upgrade time - it will be awhile for anyone getting hired right now no doubt. Dont even think about upgrade it is such wild speculation tha you should just presume that you will be an FO UFN. If you are happy with the FO pay scale compared to where you are now then you should go to Alaska.
The LGB/LAX base is not shrinking. In the quarterly system bid that just closed out, it grew by 9.2% for FOs and 6.3% for captains. It is also available to new hires (for the time being), unlike JB's senior base of MCO. Not saying that growth will be sustained, but it is not shrinking and is unlikely to do so.
As far as upgrade time, this bid brought it down to 2 years 2 months. Being a three-fleet airline and having smaller jets flown by seniority list pilots should keep that figure low for the foreseeable future.
06-25-2019 | 03:53 AM
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I have no dog in the fight, but just a couple points of correction:
The LGB/LAX base is not shrinking. In the quarterly system bid that just closed out, it grew by 9.2% for FOs and 6.3% for captains. It is also available to new hires (for the time being), unlike JB's senior base of MCO. Not saying that growth will be sustained, but it is not shrinking and is unlikely to do so.
As far as upgrade time, this bid brought it down to 2 years 2 months. Being a three-fleet airline and having smaller jets flown by seniority list pilots should keep that figure low for the foreseeable future.
The LGB/LAX base is not shrinking. In the quarterly system bid that just closed out, it grew by 9.2% for FOs and 6.3% for captains. It is also available to new hires (for the time being), unlike JB's senior base of MCO. Not saying that growth will be sustained, but it is not shrinking and is unlikely to do so.
As far as upgrade time, this bid brought it down to 2 years 2 months. Being a three-fleet airline and having smaller jets flown by seniority list pilots should keep that figure low for the foreseeable future.
06-25-2019 | 06:52 AM
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But two year upgrades are presumably not available on a narrowbody in LGB? My understanding is that LGB upgrade is more on the scale of decades than years (for a new hire).
06-25-2019 | 09:03 AM
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I believe whatever they call it, "initial cadre" have been selected and are up and running. But no, it has not been available in a system bid yet for regular line pilots. The 1st plane doesn't arrive till 2020 (I think..hard to keep track of that).
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