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Packrat 10-27-2019 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by grkero (Post 2913319)
What if Boeing agrees to buy Alaska out of Airbus leases to sell more MAXs? Just because AAG says “we never break leases” doesn’t mean they wouldn’t let someone else pay for it.

They love the performance of the 321NEO, but once we get the MAX9 flying I think it’ll be further apparent there is no long-term need for the 321.

Exactly correct. What most of you Bus fans forget is AS was the LAUNCH customer for the MD-90. Guess how any showed up on the property...ZERO.

Leases are cancelled, traded and sold all the time. All AS has to do is get a better offer or price for the MAX from Boeing and it will be a done deal. As someone earlier said, Delta will take ALL of AS's Busses in a heartbeat.

You don't think Brad knows that? As I recall he was the CFO when the MD-90 cancellation went down. Why did that happen? McDonnell-Douglas offered them a sweet deal on late model MD-80s coming down the line.

OhSnapAF 10-27-2019 07:58 AM

Are we still pretending that AS doesn't have a major order for MAXs already, and we just don't know about it? The lack of vision in almost every facet of this company would almost guarantee that the Bus is going away. Taking the inferior choice because it is cheaper seems to be the battle plan here. It only makes sense that everyone else is buying NEOs and we would rather have an iPhone 5 with a new battery as our flagship aircraft.

ShyGuy 10-27-2019 02:06 PM

My guess is 120-150 Boeing orders for a mix of MAX 8/9/10s. :D

ELAC321 10-27-2019 08:27 PM

Ya"ll here worried about NEO Vs MAX orders, meanwhile Alaska management shopping 175-E2's and 190s for which we have no scope protection.

Priorities are embarrassing here.

OhSnapAF 10-27-2019 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by ELAC321 (Post 2913704)
Ya"ll here worried about NEO Vs MAX orders, meanwhile Alaska management shopping 175-E2's and 190s for which we have no scope protection.

Priorities are embarrassing here.

Well, we have the pilot group to blame for that. It is what it is, but Alaska pilots have had 87 years to fight for industry standard work rules. Every other major airline has them, yet here we are in 2019 having to fight for things that should have been done a decade ago. THAT is what is embarrassing here.

Max Thrust 10-28-2019 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by OhSnapAF (Post 2913717)
Well, we have the pilot group to blame for that. It is what it is, but Alaska pilots have had 87 years to fight for industry standard work rules. Every other major airline has them, yet here we are in 2019 having to fight for things that should have been done a decade ago. THAT is what is embarrassing here.

2 decades ago

OhSnapAF 10-28-2019 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Max Thrust (Post 2914145)
2 decades ago

So true. I was trying to be nice 🤣🤣

Packrat 10-29-2019 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Max Thrust (Post 2914145)
2 decades ago

You can't compare today's airline environment with the 1990s, especially when it comes to pilot job opportunities.

OhSnapAF 10-29-2019 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2914413)
You can't compare today's airline environment with the 1990s, especially when it comes to pilot job opportunities.

No but you can compare the rest of the industry's contracts to ours in 2019.

MicrowaveDave 11-04-2019 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by ELAC321 (Post 2913704)
Ya"ll here worried about NEO Vs MAX orders, meanwhile Alaska management shopping 175-E2's and 190s for which we have no scope protection.

Priorities are embarrassing here.

Not gonna happen.


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