WN buying AS?
10-23-2019 | 04:27 PM
#71
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So the total number of pilots on the list is? that’s what matters. It hasn’t changed much from 3,000 the past year ?
10-23-2019 | 06:28 PM
#74
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As simple as I can write it:
Alaska needs 1000 pilots from now to 2025. 250 pilots are for retirements.
2025 projected seniority 3750.
Home run in the fact this company will be healthy and probably one of the most profitable moving forward. This should equate to SWA rates, scheduling package, and work rules.
Alaska needs 1000 pilots from now to 2025. 250 pilots are for retirements.
2025 projected seniority 3750.
Home run in the fact this company will be healthy and probably one of the most profitable moving forward. This should equate to SWA rates, scheduling package, and work rules.
10-23-2019 | 07:36 PM
#75
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As simple as I can write it:
Alaska needs 1000 pilots from now to 2025. 250 pilots are for retirements.
2025 projected seniority 3750.
Home run in the fact this company will be healthy and probably one of the most profitable moving forward. This should equate to SWA rates, scheduling package, and work rules.
Alaska needs 1000 pilots from now to 2025. 250 pilots are for retirements.
2025 projected seniority 3750.
Home run in the fact this company will be healthy and probably one of the most profitable moving forward. This should equate to SWA rates, scheduling package, and work rules.
10-23-2019 | 07:52 PM
#76
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Alaska has the current order of Max aircraft, plus the new order:
Growth in seat mile is about 12 to 15 percent a year. Some of that growth is exchanging 319/320 for lager Max 9. Some is real aircraft growth. Average is about 12-14 aircraft a year of real airframe growth.
Call it:
60 for retirement and medicals
40 for moving on to greener pastures
165 for additional aircraft
35 to 80 for front load hiring needed to transition to single fleet.
I guess too much. Here is what I wrote you. These are real current numbers. 60 are coming right off the top. 165ish are current year growth and 40 are departures. (although real departure have only been in the mid 20’s, we plan on 40). Front side hiring could produce a lull in hiring for a year or so around 2024-2025. That’s real growth of about 900 pilots during the next 5 years.
Growth in seat mile is about 12 to 15 percent a year. Some of that growth is exchanging 319/320 for lager Max 9. Some is real aircraft growth. Average is about 12-14 aircraft a year of real airframe growth.
Call it:
60 for retirement and medicals
40 for moving on to greener pastures
165 for additional aircraft
35 to 80 for front load hiring needed to transition to single fleet.
I guess too much. Here is what I wrote you. These are real current numbers. 60 are coming right off the top. 165ish are current year growth and 40 are departures. (although real departure have only been in the mid 20’s, we plan on 40). Front side hiring could produce a lull in hiring for a year or so around 2024-2025. That’s real growth of about 900 pilots during the next 5 years.
10-23-2019 | 08:16 PM
#77
OTZEagle1
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New hire 100- 74% or 36% relative in 5 years
2000 seniority moves up from 66% to 46% or 20% relative in 5 years
1000 seniority goes from 33% to 20% relative seniority or 13% in 5 years.
Guys these are good numbers... unless you live on the East Coast or Mid West... Alaska will only ever fix that for you by merging. 5 to 1 who knows, I would bet those odds though.
10-24-2019 | 02:28 AM
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How do you make that leap of logic? The company has been profitable before, and guess what - the work rules are still shiite. Why would they spend their profits on us? I don't buy the premise that a "homerun" for the company = a "homerun" for me.
10-24-2019 | 05:28 AM
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I agree. If there is one thing I have learned in 2 years here, it's that in any given situation, whether scheduling, or "growth", or really anything dealing with employees, they never desire a win-win scenario. It's always win- lose.
10-24-2019 | 08:15 AM
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New hire 100- 74% or 36% relative in 5 years
2000 seniority moves up from 66% to 46% or 20% relative in 5 years
1000 seniority goes from 33% to 20% relative seniority or 13% in 5 years.
Guys these are good numbers... unless you live on the East Coast or Mid West... Alaska will only ever fix that for you by merging. 5 to 1 who knows, I would bet those odds though.
2000 seniority moves up from 66% to 46% or 20% relative in 5 years
1000 seniority goes from 33% to 20% relative seniority or 13% in 5 years.
Guys these are good numbers... unless you live on the East Coast or Mid West... Alaska will only ever fix that for you by merging. 5 to 1 who knows, I would bet those odds though.
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