Originally Posted by Mea25000

Ford Pinto... how many 737 has Boeing sold? 10,000ish. How many Max order does Boeing have? 6,000ish. AMR, UAL, British Airways, and LUV all hitched to your Pinto...Really Comments like these are the reason management consistently laughs at our lack of knowledge. We think because we are competent pilots that this qualifies us for every executive position at AS. The superiority complex among the ex-VX pilot group is hard to hear. It seems each of you is more capable then our CEO, CFO, CCO. In case you haven’t met Andrew or Brandon, these might be two of the brightest minds in aviation right now. 10-12% growth going forward 300 to 380 pilots a year hiring indefinitely. Yes, that order secures your future. I think moving forward we will as a pilot group secure SWA rates and SWA work rules. A solid and secure future for AS and yes, I think it is a home run for all of you.
If you love Airbus you might hate this plan. I think it’s the right plan for AS, its future and all of your futures.

Originally Posted by Av8rRr

How much of the blue kool-aid do you drink? The 300 - 380 pilots they’re planning on hiring, half are because your pilots are leaving for other airlines. So I wouldn’t chalk it up as “growth” just yet. Unless you consider the E-175’s “growth.” Which I’m sure you do. Also, a single fleet clearly works great... Southwest isn’t hurting at all right now (sarcasm)

Originally Posted by Broey

The attrition list with REAL numbers paints a much less dramatic picture than you guys claim. We are going to hit 300 new hires by the end of 2019 on a 2% growth year.

Originally Posted by Av8rRr

How much of the blue kool-aid do you drink? The 300 - 380 pilots they’re planning on hiring, half are because your pilots are leaving for other airlines. So I wouldn’t chalk it up as “growth” just yet. Unless you consider the E-175’s “growth.” Which I’m sure you do. Also, a single fleet clearly works great... Southwest isn’t hurting at all right now (sarcasm)

Originally Posted by Mea25000

Alaska has the current order of Max aircraft, plus the new order:
Growth in seat mile is about 12 to 15 percent a year. Some of that growth is exchanging 319/320 for lager Max 9. Some is real aircraft growth. Average is about 12-14 aircraft a year of real airframe growth.
Call it:
60 for retirement and medicals
40 for moving on to greener pastures
165 for additional aircraft
35 to 80 for front load hiring needed to transition to single fleet.

I guess too much. Here is what I wrote you. These are real current numbers. 60 are coming right off the top. 165ish are current year growth and 40 are departures. (although real departure have only been in the mid 20’s, we plan on 40). Front side hiring could produce a lull in hiring for a year or so around 2024-2025. That’s real growth of about 900 pilots during the next 5 years.

Originally Posted by Mea25000

Max recertification should be inked by no later then mid December by the FAA. Training and maintenance completed by mid February. Max flying passengers March 1st. I am 99% sure we will be a single fleet by 2024. Very few will know the actual numbers but I keep hearing whispers of around 4.6 billion for 100. If numbers any where near that are true then this is absolutely a home run for all of our careers.