“Some pick up as many sims as they want”

There’s so much entitlement in that one sentence. Sims are posted at around 4am on crew access. You have to call in to crew scheduling to see if they can put one of the sessions on your schedule. It’s a huge PITA.

I don’t see how a normal person can wake up at 3:30am to 4:30am and try to snag a few sim sessions. Maybe if the process was streamlined so you didn’t have to call in to pick up it would be a little more palatable.

Plus it’s not like there is any kind of formal education process on how to pick up sims. It’s all just something you have to figure out on your own. I’m guessing none of this will change because it favors a select group of very senior pilots at AS.


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Sorry, I didn’t realize it was such a difficult process for you. Next union meeting I will mention starting a kindergarten class to teach all the new hires how to pick up training events and premium trips.

In all fairness it is easier with 30-40 days vacation and there seems to be a lot more of both in the Captain seat. Just a guess but I would bet illnesses and sick time play the biggest role.

Guys from other airlines are laughing at your examples of making extra money. Legacy VX "rule book" (which was garbage compared to many others) was superior in soft time to the matured Alaska contract. Granted the pay raise made up for that loss regardless of what some say.

Pics or it didn’t happen bro

4 day trip as in 4 duty periods? That should pay 20 hrs regardless of block, right?

With the 2 layovers (JFK/SEA), he's talking about the 4 day pairings with long layovers that only touch 3 duty periods where the rigs kick in. You surely remember those horrible "3 day" OGG trips from SFO that went so junior where you'd fly from SFO on day 1 at 6pm, have a 23:50 layover, and do the redeye back to land at 6am on day 3 for 11 hours credit. This is the same thing..it's why ADG plus MDG, among other things is so important in where we lag

I tried... didn’t work. Tell me how. It’s hard for me to believe you guys don’t realize that may are making this kind of money at Alaska. You all must lie an awful lot in your own lives not to believe others. But I will prove it to you so you will shut up

It's not 4 duty periods, genius, and that's why I mentioned a credit value, which FYI can be read right off of the pdf of the line awards or from the preview in crewaccess. It may come as a surprise to you, but you aren't the only one smart enough to understand our work rules.

CP and DO don’t count 🙄

Really can’t say how I am to fly with. Don't have that weird Seattleite fascination about what the stranger I am sitting next to thinks. Crystal clear on all the contractual benefits enjoyed by a couple hundred Seattle pilots. The fix for the rest of us is to move. Empty the other 4 bases. Got it. With the mAx sliding into the fall there might not be as many extra sims to go around.