uhm I hate to break it to you but AMR is making only $12 more an hour for a 12 year captain, with no profit sharing, more expensive medical, and .5 percent better 401k.... careful what you wish for, I am confident we are already making more.

I think your confused, people want to go to AMR for their W/B, not lackluster N/B rates.

I want AMR’s retirements and widebodies, that’s it. They by far have the worst contract of any of the big 4.

we have profit sharing, but not as good as others. Managements initial contract opener had the same formula as deltas so better profit sharing is on the way.

many QOL work rules need to be addressed. Along with better LTD and a few other things. I’m sure some will be fixed and some will remain the same once we get a contract (been in negotiations for a year now).

FWIW on the APA forums most guys are negative (like all pilots) and assume that this will somehow reduce our narrowbody flights into Seattle. Hopefully it’s a win win for both sides.

AMR profit sharing for 2019 was 1.4%

I am sure you will get many improvements in the coming contract. I just don’t want your current one, you must understand that.

I hope this works out for everyone too, not just management.

trust me I understand more than you know, I miss the airways work rules.

I don’t know much about Alaska at all, but it seems the common thing is people debate the scope clause a bunch it seems.

What scope clause?

I wonder if this is why the D gates in SEA have been fluctuating back and forth between AS and AA? We had the whole thing for a long while. Then AA expanded gates leaving us D1-D4 out of 11. Now we’re back up to at least D8. Hope this is good for both groups.

The AA work rule problems are reassignments. Other than that they’re pretty much industry standard.

I work 6 days this month for 77 hours and 9 days next month for 79 because of some of work rules (IMAX).

Can you explain? IMAX?

I got a lot of friends at AMR... they all got 18-15 days a month off. The 18 are w/b FO’s out of DFW and LAX.

I made 31k in profit sharing last year... let me guess, you made 60k with your 1.4% right?

shy let me explain imax... for him it means he drinks XX, so he never has to work, makes the most money, is the best looking... don’t you just wish you were him

Honest question, what in Alaska contract do you think has you making more than a 737/320 AA pilot? Looking at the contract comparison, it’s not even close. Your only nugget I see is 150% for reassignments. The pay rate disparity isn’t just at 12 year CA, it’s the whole scale except year 1&2 FO. Then it diverges quickly.

Maybe I have bad info so please correct. Alaska has a 5 hr average duty period? That’s not good. We had that (5:10). It sucked. AA went to 5:15 ACD. You guys get 150% for premium? Same at AA. Trip rigs and sit rigs I think are about the same. So does it boil down to profit sharing? Honestly curious. We are in negotiations after all and any little contractual jewel you can share could be helpful.