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NotTellin 02-16-2020 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 2978448)
I can’t imagine commuting with this company. I am pretty sure you and I work for two different companies.

I can’t imagine working for this company. It certainly wasn’t by choice and I live in SEA.

WutFace 02-16-2020 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 2978448)
I can’t imagine commuting with this company. I am pretty sure you and I work for two different companies.

That number of commuters is sure to increase as they shuffle bases around. Best to be future-minded.

9mikemike 02-16-2020 09:36 PM

coming up on 21 years. have commuted 19 of those. most flying at Alaska just pays block. I credit between 75 and 80 hrs a month.
have never cracked 300k even with PBP.(we dont have profit sharing). almost no opportunity to earn above block at Alaska. Seattle Captains brag the most. they live around pilots at the big airlines. they hoar themselves to make those numbers. they fly FAR max.
really simple why most parts of our contract is 20 yrs behind the times.

Outdoors 02-16-2020 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 2978475)
coming up on 21 years. have commuted 19 of those. most flying at Alaska just pays block. I credit between 75 and 80 hrs a month.
have never cracked 300k even with PBP.(we dont have profit sharing). almost no opportunity to earn above block at Alaska. Seattle Captains brag the most. they live around pilots at the big airlines. they hoar themselves to make those numbers. they fly FAR max.
really simple why most parts of our contract is 20 yrs behind the times.


This exactly. FAR max no clue how anyone can do that but plenty do on both sides.., crazy

ELAC321 02-17-2020 06:21 AM

I got more soft time at my regional. If you don't include deadheads I RARELY make a cent over block. So just multiply our pay rates by how much you fly. That's how much you'll make! No secret. Alaska doesn't build trips below the garbage 5 hr average duty period or the 3.5/1.

OTZeagle1 02-17-2020 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 2978475)
coming up on 21 years. have commuted 19 of those. most flying at Alaska just pays block. I credit between 75 and 80 hrs a month.
have never cracked 300k even with PBP.(we dont have profit sharing). almost no opportunity to earn above block at Alaska. Seattle Captains brag the most. they live around pilots at the big airlines. they hoar themselves to make those numbers. they fly FAR max.
really simple why most parts of our contract is 20 yrs behind the times.


We have all kinds of ways to make extra money. Some drop most of their trips and pick up premium. Some fly FAR max, work vacation, time out, and pick up as many sims as they want. Some fly many extra FCF segments. Some do many extra sims and extra check rides. It doesn’t affect you or your contract. They are taking advantage of the contract they have. You can’t because you commute and because you can’t everyone else is a “hoar”, perfect. I bet you are a joy to fly with.

MinRest 02-17-2020 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 2978664)
We have all kinds of ways to make extra money. Some drop most of their trips and pick up premium. Some fly FAR max, work vacation, time out, and pick up as many sims as they want. Some fly many extra FCF segments. Some do many extra sims and extra check rides. It doesn’t affect you or your contract. They are taking advantage of the contract they have. You can’t because you commute and because you can’t everyone else is a “hoar”, perfect. I bet you are a joy to fly with.

You sell a reality that only 3% at Alaska can see. The world is bigger than Angel Lake my friend. The soft money game at Alaska is literally below every regional in the United States. There is never enough premium to pick up and it’s next to impossible to drop trips. The P2P game is exhausting and ridiculous. The amount of hours people spend to accumulate an extra 3 hours at the end of the moment blows my freaking mind.

echelon 02-17-2020 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by ELAC321 (Post 2978573)
Alaska doesn't build trips below the garbage 5 hr average duty period or the 3.5/1.

Not quite accurate... Did you see the SFO trip with JFK/SEA overnights that was an 18.7hr 4 day that had ~14hrs of block? And those lines in January/February that were that pairing 4 times for a total of 75hrs of credit and 14 days off? Lol you want softtime, there it is! It's to pad the transcon pairings of all things. :confused::confused:

Yes folks, here at Alaska Airlines we are working 18.7hr 4 day trips. That's how much this company values the time we give it.

Flyboy8784 02-17-2020 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by echelon (Post 2978672)
Not quite accurate... Did you see the SFO trip with JFK/SEA overnights that was an 18.7hr 4 day that had ~14hrs of block? And those lines in January/February that were that pairing 4 times for a total of 75hrs of credit and 14 days off? Lol you want softtime, there it is! It's to pad the transcon pairings of all things. :confused::confused:

Yes folks, here at Alaska Airlines we are working 18.7hr 4 day trips. That's how much this company values the time we give it.

unfortunately working 2 of those next month but the trade off is living in JFK and getting 2.5 days at home on overnights.

I've had a few Rsv Capt buddies on the 73/LAX get 48 hour JFK overnights with a DH back.....of course, the minute I bid 737 captain, that'll stop. I'm pretty sure I killed a priest in a past life lol.

av8or 02-17-2020 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 2978664)
We have all kinds of ways to make extra money. Some drop most of their trips and pick up premium. Some fly FAR max, work vacation, time out, and pick up as many sims as they want. Some fly many extra FCF segments. Some do many extra sims and extra check rides. It doesn’t affect you or your contract. They are taking advantage of the contract they have. You can’t because you commute and because you can’t everyone else is a “hoar”, perfect. I bet you are a joy to fly with.

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