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Old 04-08-2020 | 01:26 PM
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This was sent out in JetBlue’s daily email yesterday and also published in the below link. It is only a re-protect agreement right now, but could it be the beginning of a partnership or further codeshare agreement to help fight off DL in the covid recovery? DL has clearly come after AS in SEA, B6 in JFK/BOS, and to a degree AA in JFK/BOS/MIA/LatAm. I know everyone is in survival mode right now, but I’m sure the C suites are trying to look down the road to emerge as strong as possible. Also of note, B6 and VX signed a similar re-protect agreement in June 2014. AS guys’ thoughts? Nothingburger or something else brewing?

https://paxex.aero/2020/04/deeper-cu...g-for-jetblue/

“Effective immediately JetBlue has re-protect agreements in place with American Airlines and Alaska Airlines. These allow customer service reps to use those airlines’ flights when a JetBlue option does not meet the passenger’s need during irregular operations. Moreover, this is not just a temporary solution. In an internal memo today the company indicated it “[expects] to use all efforts to extend these re-protect agreements once this crises passes.”
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Old 04-08-2020 | 05:14 PM
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Not sure if related, but AS joined OneWorld a few weeks back. Unlike most pilots, I really dont know all of the ins and outs of the airline industry. I am not fully aware of what the differences are between codeshare agreements, alliances, and "partnership" deals like this.
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Would hope this will be short lived and not progress towards any type of link up with JetBlue.
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Old 04-09-2020 | 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 9mikemike
Would hope this will be short lived and not progress towards any type of link up with JetBlue.
Are you at Alaska? If so, why do you feel that way. I'm at Jetblue and believe the only "good" merger/partnership would be Alaska for us. We will never be a big west coast player. We tried. Alaska will never be a big east coast player. Matter of fact, they bought Virgin and all but shut down Virgin's east coast operation. I don't think the DOT will allow any of the big four to buy either one of us. We are/were under attack by the same 800lb gorilla(Delta) in our hubs. Together Jetblue and Alaska are an instant player with 6 fantastic coastal hubs and a setup for international flying. With neither airline having wide bodies there is less chance of either group getting crushed in an SLI.

What do you see as the downside?

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There will be less roadblocks to mergers if there is a prolonged downturn. I fully expect some to happen, but I won’t make any predictions.


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Old 04-09-2020 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by keysersose
With neither airline having wide bodies there is less chance of either group getting crushed in an SLI.

What do you see as the downside?
Uh, an arbitrators SLI decision...
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Old 04-09-2020 | 06:46 AM
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B6/AS/HAL, East Coast, West Coast, and Pacific. Not sure it'd happen, but all have good products.
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Old 04-09-2020 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by trc8301
B6/AS/HAL, East Coast, West Coast, and Pacific. Not sure it'd happen, but all have good products.
Pipe dream, but I’d love to see it happen. We’d have to find a way to maintain separate brands since they all have strength in their respective regions. I’m sure some sort of setup like Republic when they operated multiple certificates and have a mechanism for employees to transfer between them through vacancy bids.
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Old 04-09-2020 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SIUav8er
Not sure if related, but AS joined OneWorld a few weeks back. Unlike most pilots, I really dont know all of the ins and outs of the airline industry. I am not fully aware of what the differences are between codeshare agreements, alliances, and "partnership" deals like this.
I don’t believe you’re a pilot. Every pilot is a business genius who could run an airline better than any CEO, a brilliant labor attorney who could get a better deal than any of those “clowns on the MEC”, a financial wizard who makes Jordan Belford look like the mouse of Wall Street, and an infectious disease expert who could have saved the whole world a lot of time and money if only the WHO had bothered to ask them.
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Pipe dream, but I’d love to see it happen. We’d have to find a way to maintain separate brands since they all have strength in their respective regions. I’m sure some sort of setup like Republic when they operated multiple certificates and have a mechanism for employees to transfer between them through vacancy bids.
Oh I agree 100%. AS had to work too hard to get Californians to understand that AS doesn't just go to ANC. No way to convince someone in Miami of that, but mgmt is bullheaded with the brand. I'm not sure how you would move forward with that. HAL is the same, the brand is intertwined with the community. If they could all find a way past that though, they all fit very well, in my opinion.
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