New B6/AS/AA partnership announced
04-09-2020, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FollowMe
I don’t believe you’re a pilot. Every pilot is a business genius who could run an airline better than any CEO, a brilliant labor attorney who could get a better deal than any of those “clowns on the MEC”, a financial wizard who makes Jordan Belford look like the mouse of Wall Street, and an infectious disease expert who could have saved the whole world a lot of time and money if only the WHO had bothered to ask them.
04-09-2020, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by keysersose
A three way will never happen but this is a fun conversation. The only name that isn't regional is Jetblue. Hawaiin and Alaska are great brands but not for a worldwide carrier. People aren't going to choose Hawaiin or Alaska to fly from London to New York. The surviving name has to be Jetblue. You maintain ownership of the other names so that anyone typing Hawaiin Airlines or Alaska Airlines into their computer goes to the Jetblue website. You paint the 737's with the name JetBlue Alaska. The 717's and 787's with the name JetBlue Hawaiin. Done.
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04-10-2020, 12:03 PM
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As a B6 guy, the idea of a an AK and Hawaii merger actually sounds really interesting. It immediately gives West Coast, East Coast and Hawaii/Pacific rim access, but my biggest problem with AK is the lack of scope. The fact that there's 175s flying routes that should be on a 737 doesn't sit right with me, and not something I'd want to get into. I 100% understand the need for a turboprop service into places where a large jet can't get into, but you don't need a regional running routes like SEA-DFW, or SEA-MKE for example.
04-10-2020, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AYLflyer
As a B6 guy, the idea of a an AK and Hawaii merger actually sounds really interesting. It immediately gives West Coast, East Coast and Hawaii/Pacific rim access, but my biggest problem with AK is the lack of scope. The fact that there's 175s flying routes that should be on a 737 doesn't sit right with me, and not something I'd want to get into. I 100% understand the need for a turboprop service into places where a large jet can't get into, but you don't need a regional running routes like SEA-DFW, or SEA-MKE for example.
For all of the talk of Alaska’s product I just don’t see it, not much different than anyone else’s and certainly not close to what JetBlue offers.
04-10-2020, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by flysnoopy76
Believe me you want no part of Alaska Air Group. You are totally correct in your observations on the lack of scope. They are already subbing in Horizon and Skywest on routes flown by the airbus or 737. To provide further perspective Horizon is upgrading and hiring still while management talks of large force reductions for mainline in October.
For all of the talk of Alaska’s product I just don’t see it, not much different than anyone else’s and certainly not close to what JetBlue offers.
For all of the talk of Alaska’s product I just don’t see it, not much different than anyone else’s and certainly not close to what JetBlue offers.
SWA would probably be allowed to buy Jetblue. Very little overlap. Hoping against that one personally. Alaska and Jetblue would be allowed. Almost no overlap. Huge network. Best merger I can imagine. It would open doors to Asia flights out of Seattle and Europe flights out of JFK and BOS. Pilots don't have to get hurt in that one and at this juncture in my career, that's what I'm thinking about.
04-10-2020, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by keysersose
Well, Jetblue has 70 A220's on the books. There isn't much they can't do with a CASM as low as a 175. I don't think there has ever been a 3 way merger and I really don't think its going to happen. I do think there will be mergers when this is all done. No way does the DOT or DOJ(whoever is in charge) let American get even bigger. United and SWA are too big on the west coast to allow them to buy Alaska. Delta is too big in Seattle to allow them to buy Alaska.
SWA would probably be allowed to buy Jetblue. Very little overlap. Hoping against that one personally. Alaska and Jetblue would be allowed. Almost no overlap. Huge network. Best merger I can imagine. It would open doors to Asia flights out of Seattle and Europe flights out of JFK and BOS. Pilots don't have to get hurt in that one and at this juncture in my career, that's what I'm thinking about.
SWA would probably be allowed to buy Jetblue. Very little overlap. Hoping against that one personally. Alaska and Jetblue would be allowed. Almost no overlap. Huge network. Best merger I can imagine. It would open doors to Asia flights out of Seattle and Europe flights out of JFK and BOS. Pilots don't have to get hurt in that one and at this juncture in my career, that's what I'm thinking about.
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