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9mikemike 12-26-2020 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by AK22 (Post 3174877)
The MAX is built for exactly the same market as the NEO and the customer experience is virtually the same. Neither is a wide-body experience...
Branson was the master of illusions, got his employees to work at a 40% discount and be happy about it.

Wrong on both accounts. But “if it feels good do it”....Of course it is not a widebody...Just wider, taller, better insulation, sound deadening, mid cabin lavs....None of which add a dime to Alaska Airlines wallet. Or is valued by Alaska Airlines passengers. The nax has been the choice from day one and the right choice. Buy the tools to do the job you do...Easy....There never was “painstaking research” done on fleet decisions. More spin for the illusion. The chinaflue helped with the pricing on orphan airframes for sure...Good for Alaska Airlines

AK22 12-26-2020 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3174886)
Wrong on both accounts. But “if it feels good do it”....Of course it is not a widebody...Just wider, taller, better insulation, sound deadening, mid cabin lavs....None of which add a dime to Alaska Airlines wallet. Or is valued by Alaska Airlines passengers. The nax has been the choice from day one and the right choice. Buy the tools to do the job you do...Easy....There never was “painstaking research” done on fleet decisions. More spin for the illusion. The chinaflue helped with the pricing on orphan airframes for sure...Good for Alaska Airlines

It has a slightly wider tube, “sound deadening” ok...let’s see a study dB’s in the cabin. Seat pitch mostly determines pax comfort, that depends on the operator. As a pax the airbus has always felt cheaper and more flimsy in its construction...I can’t offer empirical evidence. For all of it’s “superior performance” why is it I never saw a NEO above the low 30’s flying to hawaii pre-covid. Finally, I guess you’re right I can’t prove the vxr’s were happy making 40% below industry standard wages.

9mikemike 12-26-2020 02:17 PM

Hard to say what made them happy...I am sure most are happy for the job they have. Likely most are equally unimpressed by our decades old concessionary contract....
Alaska Airlines made the correct choice for Alaska Airlines. That will likely lead to reasonable employment stability. Which is really all that anyone can hope for...As always, Alaska Airlines is a crappy job in good times and a great job in bad times.

ExFokkerFlyer 12-27-2020 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by AK22 (Post 3174890)
I guess you’re right I can’t prove the vxr’s were happy making 40% below industry standard wages.

stop showing your ignorance, you are embarrassing yourself.

Barneyrubble 12-27-2020 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by AK22 (Post 3174416)
With an 8 year DOH windfall I reckon the senior VX group will be just fine...the junior Boeing captains in LAX? Maybe not so much...

Ha, yup huge windfall. Single digit to 600+ on the list. Yup, huge windfall.

rickair7777 12-27-2020 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Barneyrubble (Post 3175184)
Ha, yup huge windfall. Single digit to 600+ on the list. Yup, huge windfall.

In fairness, at least you still have a job. I doubt VX would have survived this long into covid.

Biz travel is nil, LA, SFO, and NYC are some of the hardest hit by the pandemic and associated lockdowns and travel restrictions.

flyprdu 12-27-2020 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3175194)
In fairness, at least you still have a job. I doubt VX would have survived this long into covid.

Biz travel is nil, LA, SFO, and NYC are some of the hardest hit by the pandemic and associated lockdowns and travel restrictions.

As far as I know, Jetblue is doing just fine. And that's where they'd be.

AK22 12-27-2020 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by Barneyrubble (Post 3175184)
Ha, yup huge windfall. Single digit to 600+ on the list. Yup, huge windfall.

Oh look...another bitter lottery winner!

AK22 12-27-2020 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by ExFokkerFlyer (Post 3175083)
stop showing your ignorance, you are embarrassing yourself.

If you you were a Captain you got an $80/hr raise, 40-50% from your non-union, industry wage subversive “agreement”. Please stop your *****’in.

echelon 12-27-2020 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by AK22 (Post 3175250)
If you you were a Captain you got an $80/hr raise, 40-50% from your non-union, industry wage subversive “agreement”. Please stop your *****’in.

Guess what, everyone at Alaska got a substantial pay raise from the JCBA too.
Grow up.


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