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PNWFlyer 03-24-2022 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 3393956)

20% of the time, he is right every time!

AnchorDown 03-24-2022 06:20 AM

[QUOTE=BeatNavy;3393956]https://investor.alaskaair.com/node/32811/html


I keep forgetting to include horizon jets in that 400 number mgmt likes to spew.

BeatNavy 03-24-2022 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 3394005)
20% of the time, he is right every time!

Curious if AS is on the bronze or silver plan now. Getting rid of the Q400s is more like gold, but getting rid of the airbuses is more like rusty iron or lead or something like that.

PNWFlyer 03-24-2022 09:21 AM

Can some one help me find the part where they talk about negotiating a new contact with the pilots! I am sure it is in there somewhere.

ShyGuy 03-24-2022 11:41 AM

"On March 24, 2022 we announced plans to accelerate our transition to a single mainline fleet, including plans to retire all Airbus A320 aircraft by early 2023 and our intent to phase out all A321 aircraft by the end of 2023, subject to agreement with counterparties. We also announced plans to transition to a single regional fleet, with all Q400 aircraft to be retired by the end of 2023. Subsequent to our announcement, certain fleet transition costs will be reported as special items. Such costs include impairment charges, lease return costs, and other incremental costs incurred as a consequence of the accelerated fleet transition."

ShyGuy 03-24-2022 12:33 PM

So we're going to be displacing 292 Airbus CAs (224 of which have been here more than 10 yrs) and 269 Airbus FOs, all over the next 18 months? It doesn't help all the chopping is out of SFO and LAX. I can't imagine them adding 292 CAs and 269 FOs only to California bases on the Boeing. These displacement bids are going to suck. :eek:

echelon 03-24-2022 01:04 PM

There is absolutely no way the training department can handle more new hires and these displacements at the same time

ShyGuy 03-24-2022 01:07 PM

Flip side of that coin is the main problem they can claim to have had is too many people jumping back and forth from both fleets. With these (I can only assume) large displacement bids coming, it should now be a one way train from Airbus to Boeing. Probably makes their job easier for training.

flysnoopy76 03-24-2022 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by echelon (Post 3394206)
There is absolutely no way the training department can handle more new hires and these displacements at the same time

We don’t need new hires for a while considering the number of displaced pilots coming off the Airbus. The Airbus retirements will far outpace boeing deliveries, the new boeing upgrades in the 4-5 year range are history, they’ll finish training just in time to downgrade.
in the recent recording of the chief pilot call, the DO while still saying the sfo boeing base was still planned it sounded like it there’s a good chance it won’t be on the next bid.

LonesomeSky 03-24-2022 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by flysnoopy76 (Post 3394291)
We don’t need new hires for a while considering the number of displaced pilots coming off the Airbus. The Airbus retirements will far outpace boeing deliveries, the new boeing upgrades in the 4-5 year range are history, they’ll finish training just in time to downgrade.
in the recent recording of the chief pilot call, the DO while still saying the sfo boeing base was still planned it sounded like it there’s a good chance it won’t be on the next bid.

I wouldn't be surprised if the SFO base becomes a hostage in contract negotiations.


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