Remember this? What was the date? Yup, I am right “20% of the time, 100% of the time”… most of you should be embarrassed, all I have given out is the current plan 100% of the time. Most of you can’t handle what I give out because you just don’t want it to be the plan. I am not personally attached to any of the info… It’s just simply the current plan. If anyone took the time and cut and paste all the information I have given out over the years, you would all realize, it’s really good gouge. Like really good. And that’s at a company where the plan changes daily. Look I gave we were going single fleet, all 320’s gone by 2023 in 2016🤔…. Crazy huh. Look it up, I told everyone to check back in 2023. How does crow taste.
All that said, I think going forward will not be as painful as many are fretting about. Maybe a little “stagflation” over the next 18 mos. It should all work itself out. Forward bookings look great into early Q3, if that holds and oil settles, this could be really good. The more oil spikes and the economy slows, the more “stagflation.” Bid is smaller, but it’s been all over the place. I honestly think things are looking up of late.

OTZeagle1's Avatar OTZeagle1 , 10-08-2020 05:43 PM
Last numbers I have seen:
Summer 2025
156 NG
109 MAX
0 Airbus
(55 MAX FLEX) 2023-2028
Right now Boeing is trying to sell AS on MAX8’s, we prefer MAX9’s and MAX10’s...

Then they would never get their precious co-domicile.

That's what I'm getting at. Their position will be: SFO closes unless you give us a co-domicile. They could also play games with SFO, like making it looks like it'll close but then offering a glimmer of hope as part of an otherwise unacceptable contract. No better leverage than messing with people's families.

I think the game can be played both ways. Having crews available at 3 Bay Area airports would provide a lot of flexibility for the company.
It had been referenced that having SFO actually saves the company money, and during the last pilot call they said a Boeing base was still the plan. That said, things will probably change next week.

I'm probably judging them incorrectly and giving them too much credit. Upper management is most likely not paying much attention to these negotiations. Seems like they've got other things on their minds. The latest fleet announcement looks like more preparations for a merger/bidding war.

Hasn't the Eskimo bailed on the Q before? What happened?

How many times have we heard about accelerated disposal of the Airbus fleet? Only for it to not happen, or be reversed even if temporarily?

Look, I have no doubt I'll be forced into the Dino-"Jet". And it will likely happen in next couple of years. But to assume that the Eskimos timeline will go as they proclaimed to investors with pilots picketing outside... is also assuming that history will NOT repeat itself as its tine time and time again. Of COURSE they are trying to spin something positive.

Without a merger or acquisition we will go all Boeing, sadly, that is not in dispute. But to get our panties in a bunch about a "new" timeline, without details or specifics? waste of time. Believe it when it either leaves the ramp, or enters the ramp. Or really, in this case, both. We've been here before.


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Exactly ☝️

Anglers gonna angle, nothing new here

You can’t fix stupid. Q’s are gone, Buses are gone. Just pretend this is all not going to happen, yup that is a brilliant idea. The bid should soon enlighten most, the deplorable’s will suggest it will just be canceled. Top end single fleet could be worth 90 million a year. Single fleet along with PBS will create about 13% synergies among the pilot group, that’s approximately a 400 pilot surplus. Luckily for us that will just probably bring staffing up to a appropriate level 😂. It’s a huge windfall for our bottom line, hopefully affording us the contract we deserve. Hiring will not stop, it will slow. I don’t think anyone is going to be displaced out of there CA seat. Last thing I saw showed 140 Airbus CA’s and 130 FO’s by JAN 1 2023😱.
There is no merger, this thing is done and Ben wants it executed as fast as possible.
FYI- they hate the SFO base… I put it at 1-3 odds again that they close it.

Why do they hate the SFO base?

Hey moron. Where did I say it WASNT going to happen? They have done this time and time again.. no Qs. Wait, Qs again. Busses are gone... wait, bring them back.

Yes Mr All-Knowing, All Wise...Leader of the Eskimo Faithful. The Airbus will go away. I said that. I know that. We all know that. But I believe their timeline like I believe Epstein hung himself.

It may very well happen the way they and you, all knowing merciful one say, but I'm not going to worry about it, think about it, or concern myself with it until I'm in class. They change their mind so much it's embarrassing.

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