Ala5ka

Let the continued shrinking to profitability to win the west with our smiles and caring service!! Committed to kindness wooohoooo, it’s working great!

“This is a premium market, and in that sense Alaska Airlines has been woefully uncompetitive. Alaska Airlines is the only airline in the market to not offer flat beds.”

https://onemileatatime.com/news/alas...k-lax-flights/

av8or

SFO - JFK probably on the chopping block near future…. But hey…. “Most West Coast”

We compete in ONE market…. PNW. That’s it. Period. Otherwise we fill niches till we get run out of them by either a cheaper alternative, better alternative, or the latest edition airline “friends with benefits” codeshare.

It is absolutely BRUTAL to watch from inside the belly of the whale. Wonder how much money SWA is saving on all those ETOPS flights running Max’s back and forth while use em to bang up and down the West Coast. But, hey, we’re going to Belize soon!…. Till we don’t. AND we have a shiny new building in SeaTac you can take an Uber to from the airport if ya happen to be in the area.

swear to god sometimes I think this whole thing is held together with duct tape and baling twine.

Cruz5350

This airline could run a dedicated 787 with only lie flats seats between NYC LAX and you guys would complain because they’d only serve Alaskan Amber as the onboard beer…

av8or

Solid and well thought out critique. 👍🏻👍🏻

Ala5ka

No I like that beer it’s great.. the onboard food and drink offering for guests is very good..Crew meals on the other hand..

but seriously, quitting this premium route is just another indicator that everything being “complained”about in regards to Alaska’s arrogance and stubbornness when it comes to evolving will be the eventual nail in the coffin

Smooth at FL450

4000#s per crossing, on average. But ask me about my 6 leg inner island day in a couple weeks and all my time spent "Motoring"...

Cruz5350

I wouldn’t take that article as gospel, during flight path it was said many times that they look at specific profit margins on routes as to wether they open them or keep them. Everyone knows how popular that city pair is and what aircraft are being flown on it. I wouldn’t say it’s that Alaska can’t compete on it they just choose not to. We don’t fly wide bodies that’s a strike against us, we don’t have a dedicated premium transcon airplane that’s another strike against them. I’m sure in whatever accounting fashion they ran the numbers on making one and it didn’t make sense, on top of it you know darn well this has something to do with the One World partnership.

Ala5ka

Lol as a nyc- lax commuter I can tell you this article is pretty spot on. Our product is a joke comparatively to the big boys. Commuting on own metal has been a last option for me as it is far more comfortable on the competitors if there were enough seats on their wide bodies.

echelon

Compared to an NFL quarterback, my ability to throw a football is a joke, but that's irrelevant because that's not how I've chosen to make money. This particular city pair is clearly not how Alaska has chosen to make money, or they WOULD have the lie flat seats and premium service.

Don't get me wrong, I would love for the company that signs my paychecks to be growing aggressively, to be competitive in every market, to have limitless resources to throw at winning customers, etc, and to still remain highly profitable. Unfortunately, I don't have any control over this company's business decisions and neither do you, we both just have to live with them (while simultaneously making this career as profitable as possible for ourselves).

So I'm personally disappointed by a lot of their business decisions, but I'm also not stupid enough to think that they don't have good reasons for making them and without access to the same information they have and the same analyses that they've done, nobody here is qualified to say otherwise.

Tell them you demand scope, tell them you demand industry leading work rules, tell them you demand higher wages, etc. Don't tell them which routes to fly.

El Peso

It seems that AK is only flying this route 4x/week as it is. Not a huge cut in my opinion.