put on some Night Ranger, Sister Christian, in the background. It helps.

 

Did you fellas see that ual announced a purchase order for 270 new aircraft- that’s 69 more new planes than our entire mainline fleet. Wll will have premium product, including seatback tvs with bluetooth connectivity. I thought Brad and Ben said people like to watch on their iPads? I hate to think they lied to us..but could it be???

oh yeah, also with the purchase order they are removing 200 rjs to be replaced with mainline flying

But we won the lottery here so whatev. God I wish I wasn’t too old and could take thme pay cut. Anyone who can leave, leave!!!

 

Why you stressing over things you have zero control over?

 

I have control over my vote and influencing others about scope. Others are bringing flying back to mainline while we are getting more RJs. I’ve never understood you, flew with you when you were an fo. You’re a sharp guy but your shift towards Alaska justifier apologist is confusing

 

Dont get me wrong, I’m not happy either about what happened to NYC, displacement x2 to west coast, etc.


Of course I (and most nearly everyone else now) cares about scope and job protections. I just don’t understand the angst on topics like B vs A or what routes we fly or don’t fly. Now if the topic is smaller RJs doing more mainline flights, that’s certainly a concern. But cutting LA-JFK while adding other routes from JFK that increase frequency? I dunno, I suppose there’s bigger fish to concentrate on.

 

Mostly agreed…but it’s disconcerting that management clearly doesn’t have the vision to effectively compete. Retreating to their safe space and only dipping their toes in the water when a market is “easy” doesn’t inspire confidence.

 

😱😱😱…. What are you guys talking about.

I am sitting on the deck of the boat, looking at Friday Harbor, nice little breeze, it’s beautiful. The next 7 days look almost perfect. I just added 50ml of a blue labeled product to a tumbler, I think I will let it set a minute or two.

We got 120 max aircraft coming, profit margins should be pushing back towards 18%. If the economy holds, a new contract is coming. End of June next year, best guess. We will have scope and a healthy raise. Things will not be perfect, but they never really are anywhere. If you don’t live on the west coast, this is probably not the airline for you. If you were taken hostage 5 years ago, sorry, that is a tuff break. If a HA merger takes place, that will slow things down… then we are probably looking at 18-24 mos as management tries to tuck everything into the merger.

I am surprised many didn’t know when they got hired here that UA, DA, and AA are five times our size🤔. I think that is bigger, with many more planes. I think that means their orders should be larger too.

RELAX, it’s summer!
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I did just hear we had 30 captains leave to become flight attendants at United 😉.

 

Because it’s easier to complain than dust off the old interview suit and resume and move on…. I’d really love to know what advice these folks would give to their kids if they were in a similar situation. Something tells me it isn’t just suck it up buttercup and yet that’s what they tell themselves.

 

😂😂😂🥃🥃

There’s gonna need to be a monster 180 by the company on Scope negotiations for that to be the case.

 

You do realize two things can be true at once right?

Like you can like your job and yet still be concerned about aspects of the company or the contract or negotiations right?

It’s not binary.