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03-25-2022, 08:08 PM
#72
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: Cessna 205
Posts: 229
Originally Posted by HotDogWater
My entire schedule from start to OE. First 3 weeks are basically Mon - Fri and then the Sims are 3-5 days in a row with anywhere from 2-5 days off in between some sessions. I do have one stretch of 7 days of sims.
03-25-2022, 08:50 PM
#73
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: Right Side Up
Posts: 192
Originally Posted by clearandcold
I think you’re supposed to have 2 days off every 7 days.
They were (and maybe continuing?) to violate that, especially now that people are traveling to/from sims in different locations than SEA.
03-26-2022, 01:16 AM
#75
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,900
Just doing napkin math, 241 mainline aircraft by end of 2023 with with 12 to 12.6 pilots/plane = 2890 to 3050 pilots. We're already above that total. So does hiring come to a stop as we displace 500+ pilots from the Bus to Boeing? The math for crews per plane is quite clear. Unfortunately I see the next 18 months being a re-set.
Last edited by ShyGuy; 03-26-2022 at 01:30 AM.
03-26-2022, 06:02 AM
#77
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 325
You and I agree on this. We will
be fat pilots. Hiring will come to a halt. When hiring resumes it’ll likely be entirely horizon people via the pathways program. It’ll be used as a way to continue the argument of “you’re lucky to be here so you’ll be paid less”
it should scare the ever living daylights out of every pilot here how quickly aag decided to chop half their airline when staffing got tough. Might be a canary in the coal mine moment for Alaska
be fat pilots. Hiring will come to a halt. When hiring resumes it’ll likely be entirely horizon people via the pathways program. It’ll be used as a way to continue the argument of “you’re lucky to be here so you’ll be paid less”
it should scare the ever living daylights out of every pilot here how quickly aag decided to chop half their airline when staffing got tough. Might be a canary in the coal mine moment for Alaska
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Just doing napkin math, 241 mainline aircraft by end of 2023 with with 12 to 12.6 pilots/plane = 2890 to 3050 pilots. We're already above that total. So does hiring come to a stop as we displace 500+ pilots from the Bus to Boeing? The math for crews per plane is quite clear. Unfortunately I see the next 18 months being a re-set.
03-26-2022, 08:05 AM
#78
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 468
Originally Posted by Ala5ka
You and I agree on this. We will
be fat pilots. Hiring will come to a halt. When hiring resumes it’ll likely be entirely horizon people via the pathways program. It’ll be used as a way to continue the argument of “you’re lucky to be here so you’ll be paid less”
it should scare the ever living daylights out of every pilot here how quickly aag decided to chop half their airline when staffing got tough. Might be a canary in the coal mine moment for Alaska
be fat pilots. Hiring will come to a halt. When hiring resumes it’ll likely be entirely horizon people via the pathways program. It’ll be used as a way to continue the argument of “you’re lucky to be here so you’ll be paid less”
it should scare the ever living daylights out of every pilot here how quickly aag decided to chop half their airline when staffing got tough. Might be a canary in the coal mine moment for Alaska
I’d imagine once people start being downgraded and displaced, and the upgrade time goes to more like 8-10 years and reserve is forever, people may leave in higher numbers if the rest of the industry continues to hire while offering good opportunities. That may prevent the possibility of furloughs if we end up 400-500 pilots over staffed.
03-26-2022, 09:29 AM
#80
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 669
Originally Posted by Ala5ka
You and I agree on this. We will
be fat pilots. Hiring will come to a halt. When hiring resumes it’ll likely be entirely horizon people via the pathways program. It’ll be used as a way to continue the argument of “you’re lucky to be here so you’ll be paid less”
it should scare the ever living daylights out of every pilot here how quickly aag decided to chop half their airline when staffing got tough. Might be a canary in the coal mine moment for Alaska
be fat pilots. Hiring will come to a halt. When hiring resumes it’ll likely be entirely horizon people via the pathways program. It’ll be used as a way to continue the argument of “you’re lucky to be here so you’ll be paid less”
it should scare the ever living daylights out of every pilot here how quickly aag decided to chop half their airline when staffing got tough. Might be a canary in the coal mine moment for Alaska
Originally Posted by flysnoopy76
Im glad I’m not the only one who can see reality.
I’d imagine once people start being downgraded and displaced, and the upgrade time goes to more like 8-10 years and reserve is forever, people may leave in higher numbers if the rest of the industry continues to hire while offering good opportunities. That may prevent the possibility of furloughs if we end up 400-500 pilots over staffed.
I’d imagine once people start being downgraded and displaced, and the upgrade time goes to more like 8-10 years and reserve is forever, people may leave in higher numbers if the rest of the industry continues to hire while offering good opportunities. That may prevent the possibility of furloughs if we end up 400-500 pilots over staffed.
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