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03-25-2022 | 08:08 PM
#72
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From: Cessna 205
I think you’re supposed to have 2 days off every 7 days.
03-25-2022 | 08:50 PM
#73
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From: Right Side Up
Every 5 days in a row of training you have to have 2 days “free of company duty.”
They were (and maybe continuing?) to violate that, especially now that people are traveling to/from sims in different locations than SEA.
They were (and maybe continuing?) to violate that, especially now that people are traveling to/from sims in different locations than SEA.
03-26-2022 | 01:16 AM
#75
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Just doing napkin math, 241 mainline aircraft by end of 2023 with with 12 to 12.6 pilots/plane = 2890 to 3050 pilots. We're already above that total. So does hiring come to a stop as we displace 500+ pilots from the Bus to Boeing? The math for crews per plane is quite clear. Unfortunately I see the next 18 months being a re-set.
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03-26-2022 | 06:02 AM
#77
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You and I agree on this. We will
be fat pilots. Hiring will come to a halt. When hiring resumes it’ll likely be entirely horizon people via the pathways program. It’ll be used as a way to continue the argument of “you’re lucky to be here so you’ll be paid less”
it should scare the ever living daylights out of every pilot here how quickly aag decided to chop half their airline when staffing got tough. Might be a canary in the coal mine moment for Alaska
be fat pilots. Hiring will come to a halt. When hiring resumes it’ll likely be entirely horizon people via the pathways program. It’ll be used as a way to continue the argument of “you’re lucky to be here so you’ll be paid less”
it should scare the ever living daylights out of every pilot here how quickly aag decided to chop half their airline when staffing got tough. Might be a canary in the coal mine moment for Alaska
Just doing napkin math, 241 mainline aircraft by end of 2023 with with 12 to 12.6 pilots/plane = 2890 to 3050 pilots. We're already above that total. So does hiring come to a stop as we displace 500+ pilots from the Bus to Boeing? The math for crews per plane is quite clear. Unfortunately I see the next 18 months being a re-set.
03-26-2022 | 08:05 AM
#78
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You and I agree on this. We will
be fat pilots. Hiring will come to a halt. When hiring resumes it’ll likely be entirely horizon people via the pathways program. It’ll be used as a way to continue the argument of “you’re lucky to be here so you’ll be paid less”
it should scare the ever living daylights out of every pilot here how quickly aag decided to chop half their airline when staffing got tough. Might be a canary in the coal mine moment for Alaska
be fat pilots. Hiring will come to a halt. When hiring resumes it’ll likely be entirely horizon people via the pathways program. It’ll be used as a way to continue the argument of “you’re lucky to be here so you’ll be paid less”
it should scare the ever living daylights out of every pilot here how quickly aag decided to chop half their airline when staffing got tough. Might be a canary in the coal mine moment for Alaska
I’d imagine once people start being downgraded and displaced, and the upgrade time goes to more like 8-10 years and reserve is forever, people may leave in higher numbers if the rest of the industry continues to hire while offering good opportunities. That may prevent the possibility of furloughs if we end up 400-500 pilots over staffed.
03-26-2022 | 09:29 AM
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You and I agree on this. We will
be fat pilots. Hiring will come to a halt. When hiring resumes it’ll likely be entirely horizon people via the pathways program. It’ll be used as a way to continue the argument of “you’re lucky to be here so you’ll be paid less”
it should scare the ever living daylights out of every pilot here how quickly aag decided to chop half their airline when staffing got tough. Might be a canary in the coal mine moment for Alaska
be fat pilots. Hiring will come to a halt. When hiring resumes it’ll likely be entirely horizon people via the pathways program. It’ll be used as a way to continue the argument of “you’re lucky to be here so you’ll be paid less”
it should scare the ever living daylights out of every pilot here how quickly aag decided to chop half their airline when staffing got tough. Might be a canary in the coal mine moment for Alaska
Im glad I’m not the only one who can see reality.
I’d imagine once people start being downgraded and displaced, and the upgrade time goes to more like 8-10 years and reserve is forever, people may leave in higher numbers if the rest of the industry continues to hire while offering good opportunities. That may prevent the possibility of furloughs if we end up 400-500 pilots over staffed.
I’d imagine once people start being downgraded and displaced, and the upgrade time goes to more like 8-10 years and reserve is forever, people may leave in higher numbers if the rest of the industry continues to hire while offering good opportunities. That may prevent the possibility of furloughs if we end up 400-500 pilots over staffed.
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