Life at Alaska !
11-17-2021, 04:05 PM
#231
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
Dude, they drink the scotch with me, on the boat, at the club, out at dinner, and at my house. We are friends, we take care of each other.
That's the problem.
11-17-2021, 04:12 PM
#232
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Here's the big thing. I'm not mad at you for getting prime vacation days. I'm mad at you for not recognizing that the company staffs just enough days to keep the senior cadre happy, and the rest of us can go pound sand.
If they staffed better, they could afford more time off during peak travel days. But they don't. And the insiders don't care because your drunken, lawn-mowing, vacation trading network.
Also, don't flash around your 40 days of vacation like it's really 40 days. It's 25 days tops. Because this contract's build back to 75 hours minimum, you are spending 3.5 hour vacation days to cover 5.5 hour flying days. It will never be 1:1.
Either Alaska pilots are really bad at math when they signed that deal, or they enjoy lying to themselves.
If they staffed better, they could afford more time off during peak travel days. But they don't. And the insiders don't care because your drunken, lawn-mowing, vacation trading network.
Also, don't flash around your 40 days of vacation like it's really 40 days. It's 25 days tops. Because this contract's build back to 75 hours minimum, you are spending 3.5 hour vacation days to cover 5.5 hour flying days. It will never be 1:1.
Either Alaska pilots are really bad at math when they signed that deal, or they enjoy lying to themselves.
11-17-2021, 04:16 PM
#233
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Posts: 1,178
Originally Posted by flyprdu
Here's the big thing. I'm not mad at you for getting prime vacation days. I'm mad at you for not recognizing that the company staffs just enough days to keep the senior cadre happy, and the rest of us can go pound sand.
If they staffed better, they could afford more time off during peak travel days. But they don't. And the insiders don't care because your drunken, lawn-mowing, vacation trading network.
Also, don't flash around your 40 days of vacation like it's really 40 days. It's 25 days tops. Because this contract's build back to 75 hours minimum, you are spending 3.5 hour vacation days to cover 5.5 hour flying days. It will never be 1:1.
Either Alaska pilots are really bad at math when they signed that deal, or they enjoy lying to themselves.
If they staffed better, they could afford more time off during peak travel days. But they don't. And the insiders don't care because your drunken, lawn-mowing, vacation trading network.
Also, don't flash around your 40 days of vacation like it's really 40 days. It's 25 days tops. Because this contract's build back to 75 hours minimum, you are spending 3.5 hour vacation days to cover 5.5 hour flying days. It will never be 1:1.
Either Alaska pilots are really bad at math when they signed that deal, or they enjoy lying to themselves.
11-17-2021, 04:18 PM
#234
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Posts: 910
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
22 days buys you a month. 40 buys you a lot more then 25😂
14 working days = 22 vacation days. you need 3 weeks of vacation to get 2 weeks off.
Great system, bro.
11-17-2021, 04:19 PM
#235
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
What does that have to do with anything? "It could be worse!" That's your argument?
This is exactly why Alaska lags behind in everything. Low self-esteem mixed with a dash of Stockholm Syndrome.
This is exactly why Alaska lags behind in everything. Low self-esteem mixed with a dash of Stockholm Syndrome.
News flash. Roughly 50% of the pilot group will work over the holiday at ALL airlines. Name me an airline that guarantees the right of pilots with X seniority or X years of service to receive 4 days off over Christmas. Lets say we get the BEST work rules with the BEST PBS and surprise! the same number of pilots will be working the holidays. These complaints make us look unprofessional and childish.
Complaining about things that no reasonable contract will solve, or boxed water - generates more replies and emotion at this airline than things that actually matter.
11-17-2021, 04:26 PM
#236
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
OTZ.. how many days of flying in a non vacation month? 13? 14?
14 working days = 22 vacation days. you need 3 weeks of vacation to get 2 weeks off.
Great system, bro.
14 working days = 22 vacation days. you need 3 weeks of vacation to get 2 weeks off.
Great system, bro.
11-17-2021, 04:43 PM
#239
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
Bitter, unhappy, angry, and unfulfilled will be on all of yours!
You say you get 40 days of vacation, but when I reveal your lie, you evade and say it was arbitrated away. The real adult thing would be to acknowledge the shortcomings and work to improve them. But no. You'd rather tell people that things are amazing while everyone gets 12 days off and hasn't seen their kids in 2 weeks.
Your denial about the realities is an impedance to progress. I'm not as unhappy as some. I think this place has potential, but when the old timers are straight up in denial, well that's a big hurdle to overcome. And it starts with countering your BS that you spew here from time to time.
11-17-2021, 04:50 PM
#240
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
Look man. You lie to people on here. You tell them it's amazing when it's clearly not for so many.
You say you get 40 days of vacation, but when I reveal your lie, you evade and say it was arbitrated away. The real adult thing would be to acknowledge the shortcomings and work to improve them. But no. You'd rather tell people that things are amazing while everyone gets 12 days off and hasn't seen their kids in 2 weeks.
Your denial about the realities is an impedance to progress. I'm not as unhappy as some. I think this place has potential, but when the old timers are straight up in denial, well that's a big hurdle to overcome. And it starts with countering your BS that you spew here from time to time.
You say you get 40 days of vacation, but when I reveal your lie, you evade and say it was arbitrated away. The real adult thing would be to acknowledge the shortcomings and work to improve them. But no. You'd rather tell people that things are amazing while everyone gets 12 days off and hasn't seen their kids in 2 weeks.
Your denial about the realities is an impedance to progress. I'm not as unhappy as some. I think this place has potential, but when the old timers are straight up in denial, well that's a big hurdle to overcome. And it starts with countering your BS that you spew here from time to time.
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