Life at Alaska !
10-30-2021, 03:23 PM
#131
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 59
Originally Posted by fucius
I haven’t left. I choose to be here, I live in base, and drive to work. It works for me, but could’ve gone either way. Ultimately, the culture of the pilot group is a perfect fit for me. However, that does not make me ignorant to the inadequacies of our contract due to whatever “market forces” occurred over the last 20 years. It’s not all about the size of the plane, the destinations, or an industry “leading” hourly rate. It is about mutual respect, meaning… industry “standard” scope and work rules.
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10-30-2021, 03:25 PM
#132
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 1,173
Originally Posted by conquestdz
So, by your own words he had the choice of carriers and didn't choose Alaska. That sums it up.
10-30-2021, 03:41 PM
#133
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Joined APC: May 2007
Posts: 279
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
I am sorry but if you are going to sell this narrative, make sure it’s sold honestly. I am sure many have left because of scope, pay, and scheduling but not MW. I loved flying with MW but come on. Days into his Alaska career, we are out at dinner and I said “so you moving west?” He said “No, I am just going to commute from ORD”. I said really, “so what is it UAL, AAL, or SWA.” He gave me a giant MW smile and said “United.” I am very happy for him, he drives to work now, but he never intended to stay here. It was never pay, scope, or scheduling… we simply didn’t have a Chicago base. Talk about a false narrative. Put a real honest story out there, don’t sell a lie…. I thought we were the honest ones, I thought we were better then that🤔.
I've spoken with a guy who's talked to a lot of the people that've left. This was just a small sample.
10-30-2021, 05:04 PM
#135
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 1,173
Originally Posted by Thrill
If anyone was still wondering where OTZ's loyalties lay, now you know.
I've spoken with a guy who's talked to a lot of the people that've left. This was just a small sample.
I've spoken with a guy who's talked to a lot of the people that've left. This was just a small sample.
“Where my loyalty lay”… sure you got me figured out. Last I checked, I helped out a family of our own at a multiple of 30x most… yup, I suck, a boot licker. Just imagine how much money that family would have if you all sucked as bad as I do!
10-30-2021, 05:15 PM
#136
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Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 936
Originally Posted by Thrill
If anyone was still wondering where OTZ's loyalties lay, now you know.
I've spoken with a guy who's talked to a lot of the people that've left. This was just a small sample.
I've spoken with a guy who's talked to a lot of the people that've left. This was just a small sample.
Haha you couldn’t tell before he was a management stooge?
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10-31-2021, 03:01 AM
#137
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 258
Originally Posted by SierraDelta
10-31-2021, 06:12 AM
#138
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,293
Originally Posted by tommy2times
So I guess boys and gals at Alaska don't get married, how about moving to base instead of doin a two leg commute lol
10-31-2021, 07:15 AM
#139
Mmmm wine
Joined APC: Feb 2020
Position: A220 FO
Posts: 945
Originally Posted by flysnoopy76
I’m not sure the narrative of people leaving in droves is really accurate if the Union’s monthly seniority list and attrition document is correct.
I think attrition might pick up a bit but as of now, it’s not that bad. The ability to attract anyone that is worth a crap will be the big problem.
10-31-2021, 02:49 PM
#140
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Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 791
Originally Posted by MinRest
I think attrition might pick up a bit but as of now, it’s not that bad. The ability to attract anyone that is worth a crap will be the big problem.
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