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Old 10-20-2021, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
* Give trip away, take it right back to break a hard cap of 90.
* Borrow a day trip or 2-day, swap/drop an original trip, and then give the other guy his trip back to him. Breaks lower end of 75 hr cap.
* Until the union cancelled the MOU, rsv pickup on day off. Easy way to get above 79 hrs on reserve.
* Paying attention to reserve grid, keeping an eye on new names being added as guys finish training = changing reserve grid. What wasn’t approved before may get approved now. I have to yet to fly a fully original awarded month. Whether regular line through step trade or an OF line with regular open time, I’ve always swapped stuff to something different.
* If rsv, paying attention on day 1 to try to make sure I’m not the only one available in that bucket for X amount of days. Then looking at pairing package list to see what pairings check in that day during RAP time. This works well in my base (and probably any base except SEA). And I’ll try to set up day 1 reserve to make sure there are other guys available in same RAP for same amount of days.
* Just because denied automatic trade process, taking advantage of manual trip inquiry. I’ve had many swaps approved through manual inquiry, that were originally denied in crew access auto process.
If that’s the amount of work you have to do to make your schedule halfway decent then it is truly appalling. What you are describing are contractual loopholes not benefits.
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Old 10-20-2021, 08:34 AM
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Lol bc you have nothing to contribute. Your hidden gems of the contract actually highlight how terrible our contract are if those are the “bright side” items you can come up with.
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The APC gang up? Lucky for me, I don’t care anymore. A couple years ago I may have gone in, but now meh. I guess being angry or miserable is one way to go. It’s gonna be a long ride though until the new CBA comes. You can choose how you will be until then.
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Old 10-20-2021, 12:31 PM
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Nothing to contribute? On a thread specifically for newhires, I wrote out the ways they can get around max/min credit caps, check rsv coverage, try manual trade inquiry, etc. Call them loopholes, nuggets, whatever you like. Your comments on the contract are noted. Yes it needs improvements. Again, what I specifically said was I use the contract where I can to my own advantage. And doing so I improve my schedule to what works for me.

What have you contributed besides being miserable and a negative Nancy?
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Old 10-20-2021, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
That is called being subjective. You feel mistreated and want to like working here, whereas I feel fine and like working here. Of course I want scope and work rule improvements. Until then, I take advantage of whatever parts of the contract I can.
The perception that you're discounting the legitimate concerns and frustrations of others is getting stuck in the craws of many.

I get it, it might be good for one's mental and emotional well being to deal with this "lipstick on a pig" of a contract the way you've chosen to, but enlighten us; is this the "Glass Half Full" approach, or the "Head in the Sand" approach?

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Old 10-20-2021, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by All Bizniz View Post
The perception that you're discounting the legitimate concerns and frustrations of others is getting stuck in the craws of many.

I get it, it might be good for one's mental and emotional well being to deal with this "lipstick on a pig" of a contract the way you've chosen to, but enlighten us; is this the "Glass Half Full" approach, or the "Head in the Sand" approach?
Glass half full approach. Not even half full, like a quarter full. It acknowledges there are many areas to improve. But until we get there, gonna make the best of that quarter full I do have.
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Old 10-20-2021, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
Glass half full approach. Not even half full, like a quarter full. It acknowledges there are many areas to improve. But until we get there, gonna make the best of that quarter full I do have.
So do you really feel fine then? Or is it that you're really just managing to cope in this decidedly unpleasant situation?
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Old 10-20-2021, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by All Bizniz View Post
So do you really feel fine then? Or is it that you're really just managing to cope in this decidedly unpleasant situation?
I feel fine, I’m a fairly happy person in my position and take it in stride.
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Old 10-20-2021, 04:01 PM
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Misery loves company. Work rules, pay, scope, QOL, etc. are not nearly as good as other legacies/SWA here at eskimo land; no one is arguing that. I don't know Shyguy but he's just saying that he's doing best trying to make play doe and bubbles out of company provided turd and dirty dish wash water. Benito and his minions love this infighting. Let's not give them the satisfaction.
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Old 10-21-2021, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Arctichicken View Post
Misery loves company. Work rules, pay, scope, QOL, etc. are not nearly as good as other legacies/SWA here at eskimo land; no one is arguing that. I don't know Shyguy but he's just saying that he's doing best trying to make play doe and bubbles out of company provided turd and dirty dish wash water. Benito and his minions love this infighting. Let's not give them the satisfaction.
Ben seems pretty pleased with himself this morning. He better not say secret sauce during the earnings call today.
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Old 10-21-2021, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
Nothing to contribute? On a thread specifically for newhires, I wrote out the ways they can get around max/min credit caps, check rsv coverage, try manual trade inquiry, etc. Call them loopholes, nuggets, whatever you like. Your comments on the contract are noted. Yes it needs improvements. Again, what I specifically said was I use the contract where I can to my own advantage. And doing so I improve my schedule to what works for me.

What have you contributed besides being miserable and a negative Nancy?

Thank you for the info!
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