Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3343237)

Big picture, it is absolutely because of the RLA and seniority system. Kills all leverage and the process drags out for YEARS and we have zero career portability. If I’m mgt, I know you’re too senior to leave, too young to retire now, so you’re stuck here, and the NMB process is just starting and can last years. On a “it’s business, nothing personal” level, why would I put forth any seriousness into negotiations at this moment?

Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3343247)

Getting the shot before Christmas eve...

“it’s business, nothing personal."

Why would you want to spend your off time dealing with side effects to a vax you probably didnt even want in the first place? Dont hate the playa hate the game etc etc. They should have deadlined the policy to end before the holidays, poor TEM skills :p.

Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3343253)

I’m not going to get into the political debate on vaccines. I have plenty to say for someone who’d wait this long until a December to get a vaccine, or the people that have refused it. Not going there.

Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3343258)

Agreed, didn't mean it as an invitation to go there. I just firgured if the individual in question wanted it I assume that person wouldn't have waited until the very end. But you're right, let's not go there.

Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3343253)

I’m not going to get into the political debate on vaccines. I have plenty to say for someone who’d wait this long until a December to get a vaccine, or the people that have refused it. Not going there.

Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3343258)

Agreed, didn't mean it as an invitation to go there. I just firgured if the individual in question wanted it I assume that person wouldn't have waited until the very end. But you're right, let's not go there.

Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 3343265)

But you did go there. A little contradictory eh?

Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3343176)

Those airlines did the pay program in Spring time when loads and flights were still down. United’s max pay for a Covid shot was time limited, if you missed the deadline, you got less pay. Let’s not kid ourselves, they would not have pay protected a Christmas Eve and Christmas Day trip.

The guy gamed the system here, they knew what they were doing by taking the shot on day 4 of 4 off, with Christmas Eve and Christmas Day on reserve the next two days that now have to be removed.

Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3343176)

The guy gamed the system here, they knew what they were doing by taking the shot on day 4 of 4 off, with Christmas Eve and Christmas Day on reserve the next two days that now have to be removed.

Originally Posted by NotTellin (Post 3343282)

And I applaud him for it. He did not violate the contract or company policy. Therefor it is a completely legitimate action. He found a loophole simple as that. People use known loopholes every day at AS. This is no different.