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02-15-2022 | 08:13 AM

#191

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Originally Posted by flysnoopy76

We all would hope that, but if you’ve worked here more than a few hours, you know that would not even cross management’s mind.

Touche......

02-15-2022 | 08:16 AM

#192

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Originally Posted by WYSIWYG

I doubt SW would be able to get passed the DOJ to purchase a larger carrier. As of today, the combined market cap ( AS/SW) would be almost 30% higher than Deltas . Over a 1000 narrowbodies . And if SW would make a bid and potentially go forward with an acquisition , the other big 3 will not stand idle by and watch .

Well, JB it is then...

02-15-2022 | 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by flysnoopy76

We all would hope that, but if you’ve worked here more than a few hours, you know that would not even cross management’s mind.

Has anyone bothered to go over Airline CEO Central and check their forums to see what they are talking about?

02-15-2022 | 08:33 AM

#194

GreatBigSea

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Originally Posted by All Bizniz

Of course, they could just as well not insist on that, as a big, parting, "Yuck Fou" to the pilots.

02-15-2022 | 08:45 AM

#195

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Originally Posted by Texasbound

Has anyone bothered to go over Airline CEO Central and check their forums to see what they are talking about?

What they talking about ?

02-15-2022 | 09:04 AM

#196

Burton78

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Originally Posted by Texasbound

Has anyone bothered to go over Airline CEO Central and check their forums to see what they are talking about?

Is that Airliners.net ??

02-15-2022 | 09:06 AM

#197

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Originally Posted by MinRest

A merger between AS and SWA is irrelevant. The fact remains that if SWA buys AS (hypothetical) there is no legal obligation SWA has to comply with with regard to us, a CBA, or ALPA for that matter. We would become SWA, become SWAPA, and that would be the end of it.

The AS CBA would still be binding on any successor, to the extent that the CBA language addresses that.

02-15-2022 | 09:14 AM

#198

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Originally Posted by All Bizniz

I would hope that part of a deal to be acquired by SW (non-hostile take-over) would be AS management's insistence that there be an arbitrated SLI.

AS doesn't have to do anything, Mccaskill-Bond provides for SLI arbitration... regardless of who wants it or who does not want it.

02-15-2022 | 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WYSIWYG

Some truth here, but the trust-busters do not have a mandate to preserve the positions of the top three so there's no reason a merged SWA cannot be somewhat larger by some metrics than one or more of the big three. Also market cap, revenue, number of planes, number of employees is not of interest to the trustbusters, other than how all of that influences market forces. Location (overlap) matters more than quantity.

Also AS and WN do not have a great deal of overlap except in one city. SWA is not huge in LA, SFO, PDX, SEA, or ANC.