DM email on bases going forward
05-22-2022 | 11:11 AM
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I'm kind of surprised that no one has done the math on the lack of growth that this email details. Accounting for the reductions of captains on the Airbus side, we have a total growth of 11 Captains for the next year. For the 7 guys who were downgraded from the effective May to effective October bid this may help. Since they could get their captain bid back effective November. As long as no one senior to them bids for a captain position of course.
Shocking that we even have applicants.
Little to no growth.
Contract work rules that are below our peers in every area(with one exception of long term disability which the company has proposed to completely GUT in their proposal).
No scope for regional flying.
Pay rates that even the unions proposal are now behind UAL.
It's embarrassing.
05-22-2022 | 11:14 AM
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I'm kind of surprised that no one has done the math on the lack of growth that this email details. Accounting for the reductions of captains on the Airbus side, we have a total growth of 11 Captains for the next year. For the 7 guys who were downgraded from the effective May to effective October bid this may help. Since they could get their captain bid back effective November. As long as no one senior to them bids for a captain position of course.
You would also expect a reduction in growth just prior to an anticipated or known merger. You want to achieve the best equity for your shareholders.
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05-22-2022 | 11:30 AM
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Shocking that we even have applicants.
Little to no growth.
Contract work rules that are below our peers in every area(with one exception of long term disability which the company has proposed to completely GUT in their proposal).
No scope for regional flying.
Pay rates that even the unions proposal are now behind UAL.
It's embarrassing.
Little to no growth.
Contract work rules that are below our peers in every area(with one exception of long term disability which the company has proposed to completely GUT in their proposal).
No scope for regional flying.
Pay rates that even the unions proposal are now behind UAL.
It's embarrassing.
UAL’ MAX9 12 year CA Pay Jan 2024 324.74
ALK MAX9 12 year CA Pay Apr 2024 352.80
Now which number is bigger 🤔🤔🤔
1+1 is🤔, hum… this is really hard, should I really know the answer 🙄. Don’t just rant dude. Give real numbers or actually do the math. We all get it, your really, really unhappy.
05-22-2022 | 11:31 AM
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I'm kind of surprised that no one has done the math on the lack of growth that this email details. Accounting for the reductions of captains on the Airbus side, we have a total growth of 11 Captains for the next year. For the 7 guys who were downgraded from the effective May to effective October bid this may help. Since they could get their captain bid back effective November. As long as no one senior to them bids for a captain position of course.
What was that saying AS used to have? "Things will get better once the MDs are gone"
It still seems like an ambitious timeline goal. Hopefully they execute it well.
05-22-2022 | 12:01 PM
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Its embarrassing, that you have no clue what you are talking about.
UAL’ MAX9 12 year CA Pay Jan 2024 324.74
ALK MAX9 12 year CA Pay Apr 2024 352.80
Now which number is bigger 🤔🤔🤔
1+1 is🤔, hum… this is really hard, should I really know the answer 🙄. Don’t just rant dude. Give real numbers or actually do the math. We all get it, your really, really unhappy.
UAL’ MAX9 12 year CA Pay Jan 2024 324.74
ALK MAX9 12 year CA Pay Apr 2024 352.80
Now which number is bigger 🤔🤔🤔
1+1 is🤔, hum… this is really hard, should I really know the answer 🙄. Don’t just rant dude. Give real numbers or actually do the math. We all get it, your really, really unhappy.
05-22-2022 | 12:12 PM
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05-22-2022 | 12:17 PM
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Your comparison is not equal.
05-22-2022 | 12:45 PM
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A buddy sent me UAL TA numbers… it was 324.74 1/1/24.
My point is our unions contract proposal doesn’t suck!
And yes over the last 6 mos our management has proved over and over again that they are incompetent.
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