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I heard the company is going to offer 305 and 3% cola… we still suck at 266
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That's a bigger deal. If you can negotiate it. But for most airlines that's not how it works. Also... if you're convertible, and their only source of SCR is LCR conversions, that very quickly degrades the utility of LCR. Getting converted every week defeats the purpose.
AA's "get there when you can" callout policy for SCR is a little bit like LCR, assuming you're within driving distance and not in another state.
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From: 18%er but I’ll enforce UPA23 to the last period.
It’s amazing you know that considering UAL pilots don’t even have the actual rates yet. Further, the rumored rates you are seeing are also accompanied by an increase in the retirement contribution from the company and free medical (also both rumored but if you’re going to compare rumors let’s use the whole rumor). Pay rates are one aspect of the whole. If the free medical is true that’s a de facto pay raise on top of the rates.
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That's a bigger deal. If you can negotiate it. But for most airlines that's not how it works. Also... if you're convertible, and their only source of SCR is LCR conversions, that very quickly degrades the utility of LCR. Getting converted every week defeats the purpose.
AA's "get there when you can" callout policy for SCR is a little bit like LCR, assuming you're within driving distance and not in another state.
AA's "get there when you can" callout policy for SCR is a little bit like LCR, assuming you're within driving distance and not in another state.
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Starting as LCR and getting constantly converted anyway does not. As always, the devil is in the details.
I don't ever recall getting converted and thinking "Yah! I'm getting paid more!". Each to his own.
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As far as this bid goes it seems very discouraging for new hires: For the near future there appears to be little to no growth. The only hiring is to cover the unprecedented attrition, which is arguably a symptom of how the pilot group is currently being treated. If senior FOs decide to upgrade the 4-5 year upgrade will be a thing of the past. Since the number of new captains will really only be 4 for the next year. If the downgraded Seattle captains get their position back. Perhaps the attrition will even surpass 169 pilots for the year and would outpace the highest estimate of forecast hiring.
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Southwest most junior CA March 2011. One would think since their work rules, pay, and QOL are so good, that more people would bypass and upgrade would go junior. Not the case. March 2011 is OAK, bottom barrel junior base. Don’t even ask something more desirable like PHX or MCO.
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It’s amazing you know that considering UAL pilots don’t even have the actual rates yet. Further, the rumored rates you are seeing are also accompanied by an increase in the retirement contribution from the company and free medical (also both rumored but if you’re going to compare rumors let’s use the whole rumor). Pay rates are one aspect of the whole. If the free medical is true that’s a de facto pay raise on top of the rates.
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