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#1252
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Switching topics, looking for thoughts about how PBS implementation will impact quality of life, specifically for those on reserve. Open time now, which turns in to reserve assignments, is predominantly weekend, red eye flying. Also, is long call really going to be the default for reserve scheduling?
At least the ones I spoke with were leaving for that reason. I don't have access to the ALPA exit interviews.
As always the joke "have you tried being more senior?" is very, very relevant here. I hear a lot of senior FOs waiting to upgrade until PBS is implemented. This could be a QOL disaster. Unless they are projected to be better than 50% seniority on the captain list.
#1253
IMO there is going to be some pain during the learning curve. My prediction is that not enough will participate during the 3 months of trail runs. So everyone will get really unrealistic trips. When we all have to use PBS for our actual line there will be a lot of expectation bias that a pilot can hold unrealistic trips or days off. Most importantly the bottom 50% who will be "unstacked". Those ANC red eye turns have to go somewhere. So there will be a lot of sick calls. Which will go down to the reserve pilots. Effectively continuing the cycle of junior pilots leaving due to flying nothing but ANC and FAI red eye turns.
At least the ones I spoke with were leaving for that reason. I don't have access to the ALPA exit interviews.
As always the joke "have you tried being more senior?" is very, very relevant here. I hear a lot of senior FOs waiting to upgrade until PBS is implemented. This could be a QOL disaster. Unless they are projected to be better than 50% seniority on the captain list.
At least the ones I spoke with were leaving for that reason. I don't have access to the ALPA exit interviews.
As always the joke "have you tried being more senior?" is very, very relevant here. I hear a lot of senior FOs waiting to upgrade until PBS is implemented. This could be a QOL disaster. Unless they are projected to be better than 50% seniority on the captain list.
Bottom line, the surprise for me (after looking at countless pilots' bids over my years working with PBS, and countless 'reason reports') is that quite often, it's the 0-30% and 70-100% lineholder guys who do OK with PBS. It's the middle 40-50% of lineholders who wind up with looks of horror when the bids are published. There's also a surprising lack of understanding over how PBS actually awards trips. A lot of it, though, is determined by the company...and that's where PBS can either be a huge win for a pilot group, or a huge loss (compared to line bidding.)
#1255
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#1256
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From: Precarious
"Executives said they will trim the planned growth of Alaska Airlines’ Boeing aircraft fleet over the next six months to match lowered expectations of air travel volume. Alaska Air CEO Ben Minicucci said the airline will be “moderating growth as a prudent measure.”
This article in the Seattle Times likely had people thinking we were deferring orders.
#1257
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IMO there is going to be some pain during the learning curve. My prediction is that not enough will participate during the 3 months of trail runs. So everyone will get really unrealistic trips. When we all have to use PBS for our actual line there will be a lot of expectation bias that a pilot can hold unrealistic trips or days off. Most importantly the bottom 50% who will be "unstacked". Those ANC red eye turns have to go somewhere. So there will be a lot of sick calls. Which will go down to the reserve pilots. Effectively continuing the cycle of junior pilots leaving due to flying nothing but ANC and FAI red eye turns.
At least the ones I spoke with were leaving for that reason. I don't have access to the ALPA exit interviews.
As always the joke "have you tried being more senior?" is very, very relevant here. I hear a lot of senior FOs waiting to upgrade until PBS is implemented. This could be a QOL disaster. Unless they are projected to be better than 50% seniority on the captain list.
At least the ones I spoke with were leaving for that reason. I don't have access to the ALPA exit interviews.
As always the joke "have you tried being more senior?" is very, very relevant here. I hear a lot of senior FOs waiting to upgrade until PBS is implemented. This could be a QOL disaster. Unless they are projected to be better than 50% seniority on the captain list.
#1259
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have on order….The “when” is entirely unimportant….
#1260
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They may. I can't predict that. Hopefully the pilot group will realize the importance of the trailing line value of 83 hours, the average line value of 85 hours (+2) and bottom 50% of lineholders getting "unstacked". If they don't it will likely mean a lot of work for the reserve pilots, in terms of last minute sick calls. Since those ANC and FAI turns have to go onto somebody's line and they will.
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