Myopia does occur regularly north of 45 and a half and west of 117

 

I’ve discovered when discussing issues at an employer if someone’s go to response is: “if you don’t like it leave”. They cannot be reasoned with and they tend to be a lot more prone to things like angry outbursts and personal attacks.

I’ll still try and reason with you to at least see my point of view and hope that you won’t make personal attacks but I’m not expecting much.

It’s great you’re making a lot of money. As an FO I hope I will have the same opportunity. Certainly things we did achieve with the contract such as scope will lead to an earlier upgrade and I hope to bring in the kind of money you claim to be doing. I do hope that you realize last years retro pay was pennies on the dollar for your labor from April of 2019 to September of 2022. I wouldn’t be terribly excited about a small year over year pay bump for 2022. If that makes you happy that’s great. However you should keep in mind the massive 2022 profit margin you’re gloating over came at the cost of your employer undervaluing your labor and not negotiating in good faith for almost 3 years.

Things aren’t all about money. I do recall how vacation open time for trading being taken from the pilot group negatively affected my QOL and continues to do so,, the delayed implementation of third step and ongoing IT debacle continue to affect my QOL, and constant short staffing continue to affect my QOL. All of these things lead to a large profit margin for MGMT. So when I say “about that big profit margin.” I’m pointing to issues that need to be solved which would lessen that margin. As labor undervaluing your labor isn’t something to be proud of. I’m not going to gloat over the fact my employer undervalued my labor and my QOL to achieve a big profit.

Hope that this clears things up for you and you won’t personally attack me for doing so.

 

Nicely stated. Unfortunately you will get nothing but derision and and name calling from the other side. I just shake my head when the “If you don’t like it, leave” argument comes out. I’m a 13 year Captain and I have less than 5 years left. I don’t like it and I’m not going anywhere. Now I’ll get the Eagle calling me the angry 30. Not true. I’ve just been at 4-5 airlines prior that we’re WAY better than the present one so I have something to compare it to. I have not been at Alaska for 35 years as my only major airline job. Getting abused and having battered wife/Stockholm syndrome.

 

Since you “have been at 4-5 airlines prior (who can keep count, am I right?) that were WAY better than the present one” why did you leave any of them?

 

Tell us you haven’t been in the 121 world very long without telling us you haven’t been in the 121 world very long.

 

I don’t understand. Can you elaborate?

 

You’re hammering his nail home for him.

Only someone that hasn’t been flying 121 for very long (comparatively) would insinuate that the reason you’re not at one of your previous airlines prior to Alaska,…. is because you “left”. They probably “left” because they either got a furlough notice or the airline ceased operation, or both. Something nobody who started less than ten years ago has ever fathomed.

 

You literally say that same line to everyone you don’t agree with….

 

And they have probably complained just as much when they were at all of them too…probably should have just chosen a different career if they hate it all that much

 

But they were WAY better. Thank you for explaining it to this noob.