They didn't include the bid transaction log on the FCA News and Announcement page nor the email that was sent out. For reasons...

The bid transaction log from the last bid was pretty interesting though. 55 guys senior to me want SEA CA. And close to 70 senior to me want PDX CA. At this rate I wouldn't be optimistic about holding PDX as an FO for at least 2-3 years.

Most Junior PDX FO award on this latest bid was an August 2022 hire and the plug remained an April 2023 hire.

There were 46 pilots that bid PDX as their #1 base for the right seat and were denied.

Hard to put a timeframe on it, but given those numbers, the 1-1.5 year estimate you were given feels pretty optimistic. 3-5 years seem like a much more realistic expectation. I know two members of my new hire class are going to 2.5 years here and have about 20 guys ahead of them that want PDX.

We keep getting told a larger bid is coming later this year, but its halfway through October and we haven't heard anything. I'd agree with GoodJet, unless some serious growth occurs in the near future, given the current size and frequency of our bids, its going to be several years until a new hire can hold PDX here.

Rough count is 42 FOs with PDX as their 1st choice waiting to get in, so probably 1-2 years with modest growth.

Define modest growth. How many tails will we get on the 737 side? This year? Next year?

We need aircraft to grow and that hasn't been easy for anyone in the industry lately.

2 more deliveries this year. 9 slated for next year. There’s also the potential for quite a bit of movement on the FO side once SLI is complete.

roughly 310 mainland HA guys. Any movement created is going to be destroyed when those guys decide to ditch the 5hour plus commute to bid into the west coast bases with their super seniority. Get ready for even more eye watering stagnation.

Meh, nobody is leaving the WB to fly the guppy. How many of those 310 are already on the freighter or Seattle 78?

the majority of the guys I fly w on the WB that are commuting from west coast still have homes or boats in HI and aren’t bidding over to west coast. Seems like the majority that were going to transfer already did.

I meant to quote you in my last reply not word302

not to mention like 90% of folks at HA never intend to leave our families in Hawaii hence why we’re at HA. I wouldn’t stress

only 6 max 8’s are the plan next year