I doubt we see a MAX 10 before 2027. The engine cowl issue has not been resolved and there is apparently another issue with AOA. If 2025 deliveries have gotten our staffing back to normal and there are no longer VBROs for any bases. 6 MAX 8 would result in hiring 84 pilots.

Mr. D I agree 100 seems high but 80 ish new hire 35 upgrades would seem to be in the cards

I’m pretty pessimistic about the max 10 in 2027 so I’m with you I don’t think it’ll happen

i hope it does maybe Boeing can pay the right congress person off to get it through

but if max 10 isn’t certified by then im in agreement we don’t pivot to max 9s there will only small movement in left seat from retirements and no hiring In 27

I was told Q4 2026 at the very earliest for MAX 10. Which seems to jive with SWA's projection of 2027 for MAX 7. More than a few of us hoping the MAX 10 orders are just converted to MAX 9. If the AOA change happens it could take years more to see a MAX 10 delivery.

Simply curious…
 

Hey everyone. New on here and just have a quick question; Recently got a CJO with AS (which I’m stoked about!) and figured I’d post it here since it refers to seniority… realistically how long would it take to be based in PDX as an FO? I know there’s lots of variables, but just curious what it has been historically/in the past? I know it is a smaller base and I’ve heard senior. Am I looking at like 2-3 years or more like 5 years. Tbc, I don’t have any expectations - just curious.

April 2023 hire is the plug in PDX today.

word. thx, Thrill

2026 in anc 6 retirements
27 5
28,29 6
2030 4
2031 6
2032 11
2033,34 13
2035 12
2036 9
2037 19

but PDX is the growth city behind San Diego so odds of getting PDX within the 1-1.5 are good if things continue at the current clip

Growth city? Growing by how much? I'm not going to look up the last two vacancy bids but there were at the outside 20 captains added to PDX in the last 2 years? If someone was lucky enough to get hired in this environment and was either former military or Horizon at about 70/30% of the last couple of classes. I wouldn't set anyone up with expectations of holding PDX in 1.5 years. Just like ANC there are probably dozens of guys who want to get to PDX but are now commuting to SEA or further out. That is a lot of bids of 20 guys spread out in every base.

Until Boeing can certify the MAX 10 it's going to be many years until a new hire can hold PDX.

The last position bid results just dropped and the best way to start to guess when you may get in to Portland is to know how many FOs have it as their top bid choice. Someone can go in the bid transaction log to count but I don't have time to do that now. Maybe someone else can let you know.

Vacant FO positions for new hires are still LAX and SFO.