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Today | 08:01 AM

#31

ShyGuy

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Originally Posted by airb320

Best news I’ve heard in a long time, the sooner the better 👏

AA is the worst run, worst managed legacy airline burdened with TONS of debt.

Today | 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy

AA is the worst run, worst managed legacy airline burdened with TONS of debt.

so was United circa 2010 get the right c suite and management team and things can turn around look at UA now

AA paid down a lot of debt in Q1 and will most likely make money this year we will not

lets not throw stones from our glass house

Today | 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetlikespeed

No stones thrown, just the facts. Your glass house example is comparing AS to what *could* happen to AA in terms of UA’s turnaround? That’s like marrying a 500 pounder and saying she could look like Beyoncé if she follows a 2010 diet and excercise plan. Possibility, sure. Likely, no.

Besides with widebodies here and payrates/retirement matching legacies (minus this year with 17 v 18%), what’s the push? It sounds like sole desire for it involves gaining pilot bases outside the west coast without having to do a seniority reset. If so, fine, but just say that.

AA sucks.

Today | 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

No major has ever merged their regional FFD into mainline, that I recall. COMAIR probably came closest, but look where that got them.

There were serious talks of giving all the USAirways WO pilots mainline seniority numbers in the 2005/2006 time period. There were hundreds of furloughs on the street and the company was deep in bankruptcy, so there wasn't a whole lot of value. It never went anywhere though after the America West merger sucked up all the bandwidth.

Today | 10:26 AM

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Actually there was a SLI between Frontier, Republic, Lynx, and Midwest. I don’t think it came to fruition in any real way, but there is precedent of A320 mainline with RJ for seniority integration.

Today | 12:26 PM

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Actually there was a SLI between Frontier, Republic, Lynx, and Midwest. I don’t think it came to fruition in any real way, but there is precedent of A320 mainline with RJ for seniority integration.

Forgot about that one, but it was pretty weird. Lot of moving parts.

Today | 01:38 PM

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Forgot about that one, but it was pretty weird. Lot of moving parts.

It happened in stages. Midwest first and basically stapeled. Then Frontier and Lynx. Frontier blended in and Lynx also basically stapeled.

The real magic was disintegrating Frontier later. That's a pretty rare event.