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02-16-2013, 07:49 PM
#101
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Posts: 1,423
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I keep hearing these big numbers, yet the new seniority lists published every month don't seem to reflect it.
FYI, "Cici, she not keep up the list very good". She never has.
02-16-2013, 08:26 PM
#102
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Position: B756 FO
Posts: 1,288
Originally Posted by alphonso1
It is sad....I really wanted to be a member of the team....Tried quite a few times before finally successfully completing the Pilot assesment and the rest of the process...
You finally get to interview after having done the research, lining up recs from Virgin LCA and Sim Instructors, flew on the product, believed in the philosophy, etc...
What is HR's Agenda?
What happened to the days when the recs from the PEOPLE who you will be flying with, and have flown with before, that are Senior Virgin Pilots now, have NO WEIGHT in the selection process...
You jump through all the hoops, comply with everyone of HR's requests, present yourself as the consumate team player, and demonstrate this, with confidance, for over 7 hours of the interview process, having high hopes that by chance you feel that you have finally made it to being a part of a quality family.....only to be blown off....
I hold no grudges...that's what aviation has become....
I just wish I knew what HR wants of you and why the voices of their OWN Pilots count for NOTHING....
To my Virgin mentors that gave me solid recs...I Thank You All for believing in me....I only wish HR could hear your voices.
You finally get to interview after having done the research, lining up recs from Virgin LCA and Sim Instructors, flew on the product, believed in the philosophy, etc...
What is HR's Agenda?
What happened to the days when the recs from the PEOPLE who you will be flying with, and have flown with before, that are Senior Virgin Pilots now, have NO WEIGHT in the selection process...
You jump through all the hoops, comply with everyone of HR's requests, present yourself as the consumate team player, and demonstrate this, with confidance, for over 7 hours of the interview process, having high hopes that by chance you feel that you have finally made it to being a part of a quality family.....only to be blown off....
I hold no grudges...that's what aviation has become....
I just wish I knew what HR wants of you and why the voices of their OWN Pilots count for NOTHING....
To my Virgin mentors that gave me solid recs...I Thank You All for believing in me....I only wish HR could hear your voices.
02-16-2013, 08:49 PM
#103
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Posts: 8,898
Originally Posted by putzin
Per Mark at least 16 UAL guys left. I spoke with 5 guys personally who went to other carriers, Spirit, Jetblue, Fedex. There's a reason were hiring 20.
FYI, "Cici, she not keep up the list very good". She never has.
FYI, "Cici, she not keep up the list very good". She never has.
I think we should have an ALL pilot list updated every month (A-L-M-T).
02-17-2013, 12:26 PM
#106
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Posts: 107
I have no beef with VX (actually have close friends that work there), but a discussion I had the other day with one of the flight school employees lead me to believe there are some real issues at VX. The flight school employee's spouse works at VX and is a UAL furlough who is not happy there and is looking forward to the recall. The flight school employee actually told me that they recommend folks goto VX just to get their Type and move on. Is this just a UAL issue or is VX facing some real negative perception issues? I don't know very much about the company but was a bit taken back to hear this coupled with points made on this thread that validate the view that VX is a career stepping stone not a destination.
02-17-2013, 01:52 PM
#107
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Posts: 108
Originally Posted by SUX4U
Seriously what is wrong with you? You post this as if you got burned then later on you post a question if anyone from your interview group got shot down? Chicken before the egg man... Why are you cursing the system before you know if you got hired or not? And by the way...the 6th of feb was a weds not a Thursday.
Second Of All...Chicken before the Egg, Cart before the Horse, call it whatever you want, the BOTTOM Line is that I found out from 2 people in my group from that day----2 people got the call---The rest of us got nothing....
I think it's pretty OBVIOUS what one can infer from that...
SOME COMMUNICATION on our outcome would have been nice....
It's called "Transparency"...But, Like I said, " That's Aviation ", I Hold NO Grudges....
02-17-2013, 03:24 PM
#108
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Position: A300, FO
Posts: 311
Originally Posted by alphonso1
First Of All...NOBODY is CURSING the system....So don't be accusatory....makes you seem like an ASS...
Second Of All...Chicken before the Egg, Cart before the Horse, call it whatever you want, the BOTTOM Line is that I found out from 2 people in my group from that day----2 people got the call---The rest of us got nothing....
I think it's pretty OBVIOUS what one can infer from that...
SOME COMMUNICATION on our outcome would have been nice....
It's called "Transparency"...But, Like I said, " That's Aviation ", I Hold NO Grudges....
Second Of All...Chicken before the Egg, Cart before the Horse, call it whatever you want, the BOTTOM Line is that I found out from 2 people in my group from that day----2 people got the call---The rest of us got nothing....
I think it's pretty OBVIOUS what one can infer from that...
SOME COMMUNICATION on our outcome would have been nice....
It's called "Transparency"...But, Like I said, " That's Aviation ", I Hold NO Grudges....
there is something seriously wrong with you. Your were at Republic right? or did you get fired from there? I have looked through your previous posts and you always seem to state how gung ho you are about a particular airline then dont get the job and appear to show your true colors.
maybe you didnt get hired because your attitude sucks and you feel entitled to everything?
you should look in the mirror and do some soul searching.
02-17-2013, 04:09 PM
#109
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Originally Posted by jc23
I have no beef with VX (actually have close friends that work there), but a discussion I had the other day with one of the flight school employees lead me to believe there are some real issues at VX. The flight school employee's spouse works at VX and is a UAL furlough who is not happy there and is looking forward to the recall. The flight school employee actually told me that they recommend folks goto VX just to get their Type and move on. Is this just a UAL issue or is VX facing some real negative perception issues? I don't know very much about the company but was a bit taken back to hear this coupled with points made on this thread that validate the view that VX is a career stepping stone not a destination.
anyway, just going to VX to get an A320 type doesn't make much sense, unless you stay and get time in type to qualify for an overseas job and then it would be only SIC time. Also, the minimums are 4000TT, so most everyone hired has a good amount of experience and at least a decade in this industry. It's not like they are hiring 500hr flight school wonder pilots. Up until the announcement of slowing the AC orders and overall growth, VX had one of the quickest upgrades in the industry, that of course will now be longer and guys on the bottom may be looking at other opinions that will increase their QOL.
As far as the people that have left, they are UAL furloughs (which makes sense, I'd go back with that new contract and keeping my longevity), and the rest are FO's that have been hired mostly within the last year at VX. I know a couple that went to Spirit, Jetblue and USAir and for most the deciding factor was to no longer have the transcon commute and improve their QOL.
02-17-2013, 04:49 PM
#110
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Originally Posted by okbk
Why not ask this question to your close friends that work at VX?
anyway, just going to VX to get an A320 type doesn't make much sense, unless you stay and get time in type to qualify for an overseas job and then it would be only SIC time. Also, the minimums are 4000TT, so most everyone hired has a good amount of experience and at least a decade in this industry. It's not like they are hiring 500hr flight school wonder pilots. Up until the announcement of slowing the AC orders and overall growth, VX had one of the quickest upgrades in the industry, that of course will now be longer and guys on the bottom may be looking at other opinions that will increase their QOL.
As far as the people that have left, they are UAL furloughs (which makes sense, I'd go back with that new contract and keeping my longevity), and the rest are FO's that have been hired mostly within the last year at VX. I know a couple that went to Spirit, Jetblue and USAir and for most the deciding factor was to no longer have the transcon commute and improve their QOL.
anyway, just going to VX to get an A320 type doesn't make much sense, unless you stay and get time in type to qualify for an overseas job and then it would be only SIC time. Also, the minimums are 4000TT, so most everyone hired has a good amount of experience and at least a decade in this industry. It's not like they are hiring 500hr flight school wonder pilots. Up until the announcement of slowing the AC orders and overall growth, VX had one of the quickest upgrades in the industry, that of course will now be longer and guys on the bottom may be looking at other opinions that will increase their QOL.
As far as the people that have left, they are UAL furloughs (which makes sense, I'd go back with that new contract and keeping my longevity), and the rest are FO's that have been hired mostly within the last year at VX. I know a couple that went to Spirit, Jetblue and USAir and for most the deciding factor was to no longer have the transcon commute and improve their QOL.
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