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Old 05-19-2014, 06:23 PM
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Latest airport bid closed and there are still 2 openings for NYC FOs. The next bidding isn't effective until Oct 1st so there is a chance of having one newhire class of at least two pilots just to fill the NYC base up to the normal 50.
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Old 05-19-2014, 06:25 PM
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i take it attrition slowed down to a halt then….
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:45 AM
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i take it attrition slowed down to a halt then….
It has slowed but, it isn't by any means over. Latest gossip grind I heard was interviews in the fall for big time classes starting next June when we take arrival of an aircraft every month for a supposed 5 years straight. Supposed.
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Old 05-20-2014, 06:23 AM
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It has slowed but, it isn't by any means over. Latest gossip grind I heard was interviews in the fall for big time classes starting next June when we take arrival of an aircraft every month for a supposed 5 years straight. Supposed.
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:01 AM
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My understanding is 10 airplanes in 2015 &16, and then none until 2022, as of now that is. Correct?
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:13 AM
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My understanding is 10 airplanes in 2015 &16, and then none until 2022, as of now that is. Correct?
I won't venture a guess, I am just passing along the latest and greatest from a man in the know. I know our supposed sweet spot is around 100-120 airframes. As always, use at your own risk.
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:16 AM
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Old 05-20-2014, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by expectholding View Post
My understanding is 10 airplanes in 2015 &16, and then none until 2022, as of now that is. Correct?
As of right now:

5 A320 2015
5 A320 2016

10 A320/NEO 2020
10 A320/NEO 2021
10 A320/NEO 2022


It has slowed but, it isn't by any means over. Latest gossip grind I heard was interviews in the fall for big time classes starting next June when we take arrival of an aircraft every month for a supposed 5 years straight. Supposed.
Highly doubt that. 10-12 airplanes per year is too aggressive for the kind of flying we do. It was done for a while but financially didn't work out too well. From what I've heard in RGS, the 5 each year in 2015 and '16 is the plan. It was mentioned that the 30 orders in 2020-2022 was really a placeholder with Airbus and that VX could shift those up as necessary. That the likely case would be 5 each year consistently from 2017-2022 which equals the same 30 planes. That kind of delivery spread is more realistic.

Until something more official is announced the current fleet still stands at 53 airplanes with only 40 more orders for an end state of 93 airplanes.
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:56 PM
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anyone have contacts for a virgin jfk crashpad? need one july 1
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Old 05-21-2014, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
As of right now:

5 A320 2015
5 A320 2016

10 A320/NEO 2020
10 A320/NEO 2021
10 A320/NEO 2022



Highly doubt that. 10-12 airplanes per year is too aggressive for the kind of flying we do. It was done for a while but financially didn't work out too well. From what I've heard in RGS, the 5 each year in 2015 and '16 is the plan. It was mentioned that the 30 orders in 2020-2022 was really a placeholder with Airbus and that VX could shift those up as necessary. That the likely case would be 5 each year consistently from 2017-2022 which equals the same 30 planes. That kind of delivery spread is more realistic.

Until something more official is announced the current fleet still stands at 53 airplanes with only 40 more orders for an end state of 93 airplanes.
You could be right, I am not pushing one opinion over another but consider this, 120 airframes has always been the number that the higher ups have bandied about. Starting June 2015 at 1 airframe per month puts us at 59 years end. Starting January of 2016 at 1 airframe per month for 5 years puts us at 119 airplanes ending year 2020. I believe the training department would have their hands full but it is more realistic at 1 per month if they can keep a reasonable amount of folks in the pool. Take it for what it's worth.
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