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05-21-2014, 07:28 AM
#1111
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Joined APC: Jun 2011
Position: A320
Posts: 123
There is no way we will get 1 per month for 5 years. That has a snowballs chance of happening. Heck, 5 planes a year sounds silly due to the fact we have no place to fly them! Are we going to open up PHL again, or SJC, or? Or? I don't think the powers in HQ have a clue what the new planes will fly, so don't knock yourself for being confused. Everybody is unfortunately.
Or best hope is a merger plain and simple. With 50 more AC we would be picking fights with some major operations. Last time I looked DL and AA had more $ to bleed than our corner bank account. I think Virgin Blue Pacific has a nice ring to it...
Or best hope is a merger plain and simple. With 50 more AC we would be picking fights with some major operations. Last time I looked DL and AA had more $ to bleed than our corner bank account. I think Virgin Blue Pacific has a nice ring to it...
05-21-2014, 08:19 AM
#1112
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,898
Originally Posted by brianb
You could be right, I am not pushing one opinion over another but consider this, 120 airframes has always been the number that the higher ups have bandied about. Starting June 2015 at 1 airframe per month puts us at 59 years end. Starting January of 2016 at 1 airframe per month for 5 years puts us at 119 airplanes ending year 2020. I believe the training department would have their hands full but it is more realistic at 1 per month if they can keep a reasonable amount of folks in the pool. Take it for what it's worth.
05-21-2014, 08:44 AM
#1113
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
Position: A320 eff oh
Posts: 277
Originally Posted by XDriverX
There is no way we will get 1 per month for 5 years. That has a snowballs chance of happening. Heck, 5 planes a year sounds silly due to the fact we have no place to fly them! Are we going to open up PHL again, or SJC, or? Or? I don't think the powers in HQ have a clue what the new planes will fly, so don't knock yourself for being confused. Everybody is unfortunately.
Or best hope is a merger plain and simple. With 50 more AC we would be picking fights with some major operations. Last time I looked DL and AA had more $ to bleed than our corner bank account. I think Virgin Blue Pacific has a nice ring to it...
Or best hope is a merger plain and simple. With 50 more AC we would be picking fights with some major operations. Last time I looked DL and AA had more $ to bleed than our corner bank account. I think Virgin Blue Pacific has a nice ring to it...
05-21-2014, 03:54 PM
#1114
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: Airbus 319/320 Captain
Posts: 880
Hey, don't shoot the messenger fellas. Your guess is as good as mine as to what the company will or will not do in the next five years and I was just passing along some info that I personally received from someone a hell of a lot smarter then me. I have heard 120 airframes since I started at this place and in the end, it makes sense.
05-21-2014, 05:35 PM
#1115
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Driving a Bus for Recreational Pleasure.
Posts: 544
40 in the pool and no more for the rest of the year. I believe they're gonna close the app window, if they already haven't. I believe this will change through the summer.
05-21-2014, 06:36 PM
#1116
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Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: I don't know???
Posts: 75
Originally Posted by XDriverX
There is no way we will get 1 per month for 5 years. That has a snowballs chance of happening. Heck, 5 planes a year sounds silly due to the fact we have no place to fly them! Are we going to open up PHL again, or SJC, or? Or? I don't think the powers in HQ have a clue what the new planes will fly, so don't knock yourself for being confused. Everybody is unfortunately.
Or best hope is a merger plain and simple. With 50 more AC we would be picking fights with some major operations. Last time I looked DL and AA had more $ to bleed than our corner bank account. I think Virgin Blue Pacific has a nice ring to it...
Or best hope is a merger plain and simple. With 50 more AC we would be picking fights with some major operations. Last time I looked DL and AA had more $ to bleed than our corner bank account. I think Virgin Blue Pacific has a nice ring to it...
05-21-2014, 06:43 PM
#1117
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,898
Originally Posted by flyinpigg
I keep hearing pilots say they think we will be mereged? Why? And how is that good for us pilots? We will get f'd in any mereger IMO.
05-21-2014, 06:55 PM
#1118
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Posts: 75
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
IMO because 'Virgin America' by itself will probably not be around in the long term whereas Delta, United, and American will be. You are right we would get screwed in any merger but at least long-term prospects would be secured. I would take a staple to AA, UA, or DL today. Your mileage may vary.
05-21-2014, 07:09 PM
#1119
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,898
Originally Posted by flyinpigg
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Why would Branson sell? Maybe if we still a financial loser? But other than tha why? I see us on a similar path as JetBlue, but who really knows.
05-22-2014, 01:44 AM
#1120
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,588
Originally Posted by flyinpigg
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Why would Branson sell? Maybe if we still a financial loser? But other than tha why? I see us on a similar path as JetBlue, but who really knows.
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
It may not be up to him under the current ownership American majority and post IPO. As for JetBlue, I also see them merging in the future. I think VX and JetBlue merging would be a good mix to better compete with the three larger legacies.
VX is heading down a similar path to jetblue, and those paths will combine eventually. Neither of us are strong enough to be serious competitors on our own, but a combination would at least be a good starting point.
I wish nothing but the best for the VX pilot group, good luck whatever the future holds.
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