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Old 03-30-2017 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GuppyPuppy
I would hope and expect that anyone hired at either company after December 14, 2016 would be integrated as DOH.

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Actually it is DOH after April 05, 2016 as that was the day the merger was announced.
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Old 03-30-2017 | 11:02 PM
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So if I understand this correctly, everybody hired into Virgin or Alaska after the merger announcement will go straight DOH. Fences are likely to be placed around domicilies for a specific number of years that hasn't been determined yet.

Are these fences likely to apply only to pilots from both airlines that were on property up until the merger announcement, allowing pilots hired after the announcement date to move on to a base across the street before the fences are up? Or, would these fences apply to every single pilot from both airlines regardless of whether they were hired before or after the merger announcement? Not sure if there's precedent on the first scenario in past mergers...
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Old 03-31-2017 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Flitestar
So if I understand this correctly, everybody hired into Virgin or Alaska after the merger announcement will go straight DOH. Fences are likely to be placed around domicilies for a specific number of years that hasn't been determined yet.

Are these fences likely to apply only to pilots from both airlines that were on property up until the merger announcement, allowing pilots hired after the announcement date to move on to a base across the street before the fences are up? Or, would these fences apply to every single pilot from both airlines regardless of whether they were hired before or after the merger announcement? Not sure if there's precedent on the first scenario in past mergers...

Dude. Chill. No one has all the answers yet. Think long term.
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Old 03-31-2017 | 09:55 PM
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Why do people keep saying fence? No domicile has been fenced the past 10 yrs in binding arbitration that I can think of? Arbitrators make fences to protect large equipment flying for a certain airline. For example, a 5-yr fence for NWA 747s and Delta 777s. With the definition of career expectations and domestic narrowbody flying at both airlines, you shouldn't worry on fences. Training cost associated with cross-bidding is a company thing.

Bottom line, if you want a job at Alaska and even if you live in an Alaska base and Virgin calls first, take it.
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Old 04-01-2017 | 11:08 AM
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AS EXVP level sees no current airbus pilot flying a 737 until at the earliest late 2023.... How they do it, I don't know for sure. Will there be a A320 SEA, PDX, or ANC base... I have no clue and I don't think AS management has yet to decide this. If you get hired in the bus you will be on it 5 years, if you get hired into a 737 your sentence is just as long
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Old 04-01-2017 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mea25000
AS EXVP level sees no current airbus pilot flying a 737 until at the earliest late 2023.... How they do it, I don't know for sure. Will there be a A320 SEA, PDX, or ANC base... I have no clue and I don't think AS management has yet to decide this. If you get hired in the bus you will be on it 5 years, if you get hired into a 737 your sentence is just as long
I'd just like to add this is all hearsay and nothing is set in stone. His post may turn out to be prescient, but we won't know for certain until further along in the process.
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Old 04-01-2017 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mea25000
AS EXVP level sees no current airbus pilot flying a 737 until at the earliest late 2023.... How they do it, I don't know for sure. Will there be a A320 SEA, PDX, or ANC base... I have no clue and I don't think AS management has yet to decide this. If you get hired in the bus you will be on it 5 years, if you get hired into a 737 your sentence is just as long


I could care less about airframes, I'm just wondering if the bases will be fenced


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Old 04-01-2017 | 10:55 PM
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Um, just me, but I'd expect bases and equipment to be fenced. Probably for between three to five years. This is just off of past mergers. If the company agrees to anything less, their costs, (retraining), go through the roof.
We'll all stay in our own little igloos for a while...
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Old 04-01-2017 | 11:23 PM
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The"company" has no part in it. We decide. Base fences and 737/airbus fences would come with the arbitrated sli. Our contract does not allow any restrictions between aircraft types and it will likely stay that way. If we choose to give the company a license to run our lives even more by telling us where and when we can bid than shame on us for being played once again
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Old 04-02-2017 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by N19906
Um, just me, but I'd expect bases and equipment to be fenced. Probably for between three to five years. This is just off of past mergers. If the company agrees to anything less, their costs, (retraining), go through the roof.
We'll all stay in our own little igloos for a while...
There hasn't been a narrowbody fence in any of the recent mergers. Management and pilots have no say..Only opinions. The arbitrators will decide on fences. And if they use the precedence set there will be none.
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