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Old 12-17-2017 | 12:00 AM
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Also, who needs vision or direction... we have culture. Just keep your head down and paddle bro. Sometimes you have to think of the bigger picture and work for the operation.
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You mean where the real airlines park? The ones with a vision and direction. The ones who just ordered 100 Airbus while we swap -700’s for 900er’s and “work together” to be most west coast!
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Old 12-17-2017 | 03:38 AM
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This may have been asked before, any way to pick up open trips for extra cash on year first year?
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Old 12-17-2017 | 05:21 AM
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You’ll make around 85-95k your first year, you can’t survive on that? You’re already going to have a junk schedule with less days off than other airlines, why waste your life picking up more?
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Old 12-17-2017 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by OCCP
You’ll make around 85-95k your first year, you can’t survive on that? You’re already going to have a junk schedule with less days off than other airlines, why waste your life picking up more?
Can any other Alaskan pilot answer this question without the negative rhetoric? Not every new hire is 30yrs. old living with 3 roomates. Some pilots have families on a single salary trying to make educated decisions.
Thanks in advance.
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Old 12-17-2017 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronin47
Can any other Alaskan pilot answer this question without the negative rhetoric? Not every new hire is 30yrs. old living with 3 roomates. Some pilots have families on a single salary trying to make educated decisions.
Thanks in advance.
Figure 79 credit short call and “12” days off a month. They can and I’ve experienced them extending you beyond your reserve availability period multiple times per month so then it can become more like 10 actual days off. You don’t get compensated any additional for this. Your days off begin five hours after your reserve availability period ends per the contract. If you then want to try and pick up additionaly you have to find a trip that is legal for your short amount of time off which would seem challenging but not impossible.

There is a performance bonus worth 100$ a month I believe that we’ve hit maybe three times this year.

Profit sharing could be 7% but I definitely wouldn’t count on it.
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Old 12-17-2017 | 07:50 AM
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Figure 79 credit short call and “12” days off a month. They can and I’ve experienced them extending you beyond your reserve availability period multiple times per month so then it can become more like 10 actual days off. You don’t get compensated any additional for this. Your days off begin five hours after your reserve availability period ends per the contract. If you then want to try and pick up additionaly you have to find a trip that is legal for your short amount of time off which would seem challenging but not impossible.

There is a performance bonus worth 100$ a month I believe that we’ve hit maybe three times this year.

Profit sharing could be 7% but I definitely wouldn’t count on it.
Not to nitpick, but it's not even profit sharing. It's "performance based pay", which allows them to shift the goalposts every year.

It should have been true profit sharing. But, it's just one more thing we handed over to them without putting up a fight. But, I digress.

To get back on topic, reserve sucks. The nice thing is that current new-hires get off of reserve fairly quickly. At least you wouldn't have to do years of it like some of us, whose career timing wasn't good.
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Old 12-17-2017 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronin47
Can any other Alaskan pilot answer this question without the negative rhetoric? Not every new hire is 30yrs. old living with 3 roomates. Some pilots have families on a single salary trying to make educated decisions.
Thanks in advance.

Ya that guy sucks...I sure hope I don't suck someday like that.
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Old 12-17-2017 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronin47
Can any other Alaskan pilot answer this question without the negative rhetoric? Not every new hire is 30yrs. old living with 3 roomates. Some pilots have families on a single salary trying to make educated decisions.
Thanks in advance.

I think most reserve pilots are crediting at least 80 to 85hrs a month. With the pay scales we have now I think it’s a safe bet that you can make close to or over 100k year one, and at least 135k to 145k year two.
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Old 12-17-2017 | 10:10 AM
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LA continues to be the Jr base.
Not always. LAX went above the 50% line in my class. The next class it went in the first few picks.

SEA has been 60-80% of every newhire class. The rest have been split between mostly LAX and some ANC. No PDX in NH bid that I’ve seen.

1 year to get PDX, the rest is a mixed bag.

Going forward LAX will be Jr with both Boeing and AB assignments. JFK and SFO will make that list too. Lots of things changing in that area. Be prepared to commute for a few months. No definitive answers here.
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Old 12-17-2017 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronin47
This may have been asked before, any way to pick up open trips for extra cash on year first year?
Yeah you can pick up trips. If you're on a reserve line then you can only pick up trips from Open Time (No Pilot-to-Pilot) trips.

Reserve lines pay 79 hours guarantee and you'll have a block of "5 days" off, so you could grab a two day trip worth 10 hours and have 89 hours for the month. In Seattle you will break guarantee on reserve. In LA you will fly around 45 hours/ mo on reserve.
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